"Occupy" Superthread

Logical fallacy. Just because it is worse elsewhere, doesn't mean it is acceptable here. Your desire to pick sides is causing you to rationalize the irrational.

Nope, Demon, the word 'brutalized' comes with a heavy connotation that's especially reactive and relative. It does not objectively qualify damage, it appeals to emotion and leaves facts at the door. The rational position is to deconstruct the connotation that the opposition intends to leave the audience with, by, for example, comparing relative levels of violence and applying the term in both instances.

Points of which I am not interested in. I don't care what word whatever group is throwing around for whatever purpose.

I'm interested in the rational that allows us to dismiss misconduct on the grounds that somewhere else someone else got hit harder.

If you think that's why we dismiss this sort of misconduct (if we actually do) then you're looking in the wrong place altogether...

Oh don't worry, I'm really only looking at Sly particularly.

The question could be asked: is the violence "appropriate" in a sense. Not that I think this, but you could argue that because the Occupiers call themselves Revolutionaries, the old regime is almost expected to become violent. I guess what I'm saying is "I think, therefore I am". We think the government will be violent, and so they are. I guess.

From RT - http://rt.com/usa/news/oakland-occupy-protest-strike-299/ - http://rt.com/usa/news/occupy-wall-street-police-945/ - General Strike? Soldiers joining the Occupation? Woo! (Also Yes, I know, RT. Most other news-sources are showing the protestors as 'Welfare-Blodging Commie Hippies', and I don't watch Al-Jazeera any more.)

Progressive and liberal or not, it is fact that verterans are now adding to the 'occupy movement's' ranks and their arrival in numbers will carry a significant sway.

As the general strike kicks off in Oakland, the Police there have announced support of the movement! - http://www.opoa.org/uncategorized/an-open-letter-to-the-citizens-of-oakland-from-the-oakland-police-officers’-association/

Also, regular news updates of the General Strike - http://rt.com/news/occupy-oakland-live-updates-411/

Edit: There is now talk about organizing Oakland into the Commune. (Thank you Lenin Cat for correcting me.)

Double Edit: Apparently, as well as the port, major traffic intersections are now being blocked by Protestors.

Triple Edit: Pics of one of the marches in the city - https://imgur.com/DTUxp (Linking to it, due to large image size)

And another, smaller picture -

The one thing about the letter from the police that makes me hesitant is that there are no signatures or official documentation actually stating it is from the police.

CNN also says that no police officers were present.

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The Police aren't participating. But they do support the movement, and have basically said 'Do what you want'. Also, check the URL. I believe it is the Oakland Police website.

Epic fail on my part. Sorry for wasting a precious few moments of your life that you will never get back.

OT. I feel that the Oakland movement has probably been a lot more successful then OWS.

Well, it kind of does make sense. The US is a bit sectional (though much less today). Different parts of the country have different general views. Oakland on the West Coast, which is generally sited for liberal views.

Off topic, this is the reason I don't like Kaiserreich for accuracy. The CSA would have developed in the northern midwest/east, where most of the industrial strength in the US lies. The south would be the last place that it would happen. Just a little rant.

Oh my god, now the 99% are occupying Red Robin! It's all out class warfare now!

You watched South Park.

You could have played along....

Just kidding. no epic fail on my part. If you read the post no where do they say, "We support the movement."

They didn't directly say it. But the wording, and structure of the post heavily implied it. Why would they have put out that post if they didn't? Also, at last nights scuffle, despite 400+ police officers present, not one of them was from the Oakland PD. Also, some quotes from the post -

From that excerpt there is nothing that indicates they are in support of the the protesters.