Che is gone

Che was banned for insults the first time then he didn't learn and was banned for insult sand hate speech the second time then this time he was banned for hate speech and insults again he never learned his lesson of you can't insult people and spout hate speech on these forums. Why should we allow people who wish death upon all members, spout hate speech and insult people on these forums? Also since you seem to use the fact he would have built a Minecraft server a lot I would like to let you know we have one.

You see, Che is no threat. I don't particularlly take insult from being threatened on the INTERNET. No one should. He was an eyesore, nothing more. But an eyesore that helps.

I'm assuming you mean trouble with the modship, in which case you've ignored the fact that I'm advocating for pretty much waving almost all the rules. They wouldn't get in trouble either.

Actually no, that is not what I meant. He was causing other users to get warned for threatening him. Yet he was allowed to stay and no, I stated clearly in one of my posts that you were for no rules. That's not what I consider ignoring.

We have rules for a reason to ensure that these forums are welcoming and fun not hateful also you wouldn't tolerate in real life why tolerate it online?

No that's what I said you ment.

I'm for waving most rules, not all of them. I could go pick hairs and tell you which but I have to leave in like 5 minutes and all.

Ok, so go infract Noel.

Actions are just an extention of beliefs. As long as his "extreme" beliefs don't come into question he never will have those distasteful actions. However when your extreme beliefs are about tons of countries that would be hard. The way I see it, live and let live.

If you had stopped at the first banned the whole situation never would've happened, we'd have MineCraft, and Che probably would be fighting for some NKVD Branch. It's not special treatment, this is how all cases should be handled.

Welcoming and fun? lolwut?

Anyway, I would tolerate most of it, besides the death threat part, in real life. Since this is the internet and odds are I will never see Che ever it is not a threat.

He can express is beliefs without saying your a retard and you deserve to die and even after two bans he didn't stop.

You are only supporting him because of these games, take them away and would you still support him? I assume you missed where someone said we DO have Minecraft and being done by someone who isn't spewing hate right and left. We don't need people like Che. We don't need people like him representing the forums or the clan and everything he did can easily be replaced by another, less offensive member, one who isn't as likely to drive off members from their actions.

Not as much. I would still try to cover his hate speech and insulting users, it's just the death threat parts I wouldn't really defend anymore. I'm fine with a person who's an eyesore and productive, but someone who's just an eyesore I might as well ignore, both when they are banned and unbanned.

Ya I forgot to respond to that. I think your refering to Asphalion's server which, last I checked, could only go on at a very selective time and typically had massive lag issues.

We kind of do, the NKVD isn't very stable. And while Che's ideas can be easilly replicated, they can't well be thought of. Che simply thinks more about it than most people. The only person who actually suffered from the whole ordeal was Che himself, no one else was drivne away or anything.

No-one was driven away because we got rid of his hate before it happened. Also I find that pretty ridiculous that someone would be okay with someone calling for the deaths of most forum members if they are involved with games but when they aren't it's no longer ok. As if that justifies that kind of behavior.

Just become a straight gay best friend. You get to listen to Women wish death upon you and the rest of the male population.

Ok first of all may I remind you guys that this hate speech with Che started before anyone even knew who he was. I believe it started on the multiple Libya threads we had in the beginning of the forum, which can be found at the very beginning at the 170 something page Libya Superthread. So for those who say that Che only spouted hate speech because he was insulted himself, are completely wrong. Any other forum member would have been banned a LONG time ago, probably in March or April. The signature in question was extremely anti semetic. I remember Che saying Hitler should have "finished the job" with the Jews.

Matt had up until the week before Che was banned, tried to reconsile with Che but Che had none of it, continually calling for his death. Before his arguments escalated into calling for people to be lined up on the wall and shot he continually ignored peoples arguments by calling them 12 year olds who watch sesame street while still calling them retards and saying he would beat them to death given the chance. Then he resorted to calling for the genocide of Jews. On multiple occasions he has said it is only fair that Obamas family die a slow and painful death for supporting the "rats" in Libya. Since the beginning of his first posts, Che has called for the slow and painful death of EVERY American. He has even on a few occasions supported Osama Bin laden and supported 9/11 on a few occasions as well. He has ordered for the death of specific members on almost every other post for simply trying to debate with him.

And to Kara who is saying that we were provoking him, I lol'ed at that statement. If trying to debate with someone is provoking him to call for genocide and lining people on the wall and shot, then I guess the coffee house should be full of people calling for genocide and death to specific forum members. THe fact that he was trying to set up a minecraft server means nothing. We are trying to make our forum look like a nice place, and its not helping that the name of the site keeps people from coming on. We dont want their opinions to be reaffirmed when they see the posts that Che made. When they see how CHe posts, they assume that we all are like that. I know you are probably gonna ignore the entire post and just pick one tiny sentence out of it that I messed up on but I have basically covered everything in this post

Che's gone, he's not coming back, ever, so you can bitch about it all you want but nothing is going to change whatsoever.

Very good post Sly, you pretty much nailed it.

Thanks. I think that is the first time I ever "nailed it"

I second the no perma-bans on people who want to be here, only spam bots and malbots

Once again, if you want to be here don't break the rules enough to get banned. It takes a whole freaking lot to get permabanned. It's not that hard to just tone it down and not wish for people's deaths.

Perma bans suck but sometimes they are deserved.

anyways you guys will forget about Che in a month and move on to something else.

These forums are already so much better without Che.

How long was he here? About 6 months now? No one was ever driven off because Che saying shit doesn't make people leave because they're not fragile and overly sensitive.

Not really, neither instance is it ok and I'd rather see it both end in them staying unbanned, but I'm not going to go and defend them if they're both lazy and breaking rules.

Again, that's what was said before the People's Assembly was founded.
It's improbable, but it's not impossible.