An Extreme Injustice of Capitalism

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by C_G, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. Link NO SWAG

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    That is one of the saddest things I've ever heard.
    That said, bad shit happens. Capitalism isn't the cause of bad luck.
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    Yeah I agree with Link on this the guy's story is rather bad but there's millions others like him on this planet.
  3. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    He is weak, old and decrepit. We should eat him and mate with his females.
  4. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Maybe he should have found a different way then remorgage his house. If you borrow something you have to pay it back and if you can't pay it back then you should not have borrowed it in the fucking first place. Also I agree with Link for a change.
  5. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Bah! Primie scum the lot of you.
  6. MrUnclepeanuts Well-Known Member

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    I like how people support Capitolism, even though they're aware of bullshit situations like these.
  7. LeonTrotsky Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but shit happens. I think that people need to be able to run their own lives, even if it gets f*** it up.
    Edit: MrUnclepeanuts: 1. spelled Capitalism wrong. 2. life if full of bullshit situations, sorry.
  8. SatoMera New Member

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    Besides universal negative *consequencez, hopefully there would be social safety nets to catch people who are falling to far to fast. Governmental, privatized or a volunterist safety net would all hopefully achieve the same thing. But life is usually brutal, nasty, unfair and uncontrollable, and we all have to do the best we can...and biznitch based on our abilities and the lottery of birth.

    shit that was stupid *coincidences
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    If you borrow money you have to pay back money. It's unfortunate for him but it's not some great crime against humanity nor is it the fault of Capitalism. It's simple bad luck.
  10. Big J Well-Known Member

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    This seems to me as an injustice of our healthcare system more than Capitalism. If this guy didn't have to worry about paying for his wife's treatment he wouldn't have had to sell his house
  11. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    "It's not the ever prevalent system the encompasses our lives fault! It's this super-natural entity know as " luck"."
    Superstitious Neanderthals......
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    The tragedy is that people misattribute this kind of thing to "bad luck". It might be an attempt to rationalise away the injustice of the situation or just genuine niavety, but either way it allows the cruelty to continue and for that reason it's completely disgusting.

    It surprises me just how often I hear attitudes like "that's life", "you can't help everyone", and other instant knee-jerk rationalisation attempts. Absolutely nothing about this is natural. Temporary poverty can occur in nature when disaster strikes, but prolonged poverty only exists because human beings make it exist. It is enforced, and very very deliberate.

    Life has been on Earth for 3.5 billion years, and in that time there has been only one species for which the use of it's environment is a privilege rather than a right. All of the living space and resources in the world would be completely free if not for human interference. That's not to say that it should be an unregulated free-for-all, but equality of access to our planet should be a right.

    If people were not being helped then that's one thing, but people are being actively hindered in life. Starving people of resources is what allows exploitation and poverty to exist. It's why people can't work voluntarily as equals, but have to resort to servitude to live.

    I'm not some property-hating fanatic. When most people think of property they imagine a house and a garden, and there's nothing wrong with that. That's fair use and it doesn't harm anyone. The line should be drawn when people en masse are arbitrarily blocked from exercising what should be natural rights. How can people have nothing when everything was free?

    It's not nature that means the homeless can't build a home, or grow some food, or work together to survive and prosper. Society does that. These aren't people who need to justify their existence or "earn" the ability to live. Anyone who thinks they should have control over whether other humans can share their own planet has a pretty sick sense of entitlement.

    Most people are bound to suffer misfortune at some point, but the point is that people should be able to recover from that more easily, because the resources they need should be freely available. They should not have to go crawling to others or enter servitude to get the things that they need.

    The deliberate starvation and impoverishment of human beings is not "bad luck", and these people are not useless hangers-on who need nannying, they need the self-entitled and greedy to get the fuck out of their way.
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  13. D3adtrap www.twitter.com/d3adtrap | Mr. Choc: Coco Fruits

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    HA! You poor souls have never tasted justice, have you? Now because you are at the same risk as this guy is, you say shit happens and don't give a flying fuck about this guy. Never had a taste of welfare. All I can do is laugh at you fools and your barbaric ways.
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    There is a solution: socialism. In most European countries, this won't happen.
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    You guiz are so sillyz. This isn't the fault of capitalism, but rather the lack of a efficient healthcare system. Two entirely different subjects.
  16. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    One is subject to the other. No matter how you approach healthcare capitalism (or rather price-system economics) will have an effect on the outcome.
  17. PineappleJoe Well-Known Member

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    Whilst we are on the topic of Capitalist injustice. Valve won't let me add friends on steam before i buy a game from them. Now thats just mean.
  18. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    So, if a guy messes up, everyone should shower him with money and all will be well? Sounds kinda naive to me, isn't that what Greece is trying to do?
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    Double no.
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    If only we could all live like Finland and follow the way of the great Finnish people.

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