Rick Perry And Herman Cain Done In One Week?

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  1. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Cain still believes that china does not have nukes and no aircraft carriers lol fail.
  2. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    They don't have any aircraft carriers, they are in the process of refitting an aging aircraft carrier.
  3. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Most of the newer school republicans (ie the tea party, and those trying to draw from its core) are turning to Hayek. Many Americans view the bailout as a failure of Keynesian economics, so The Austrian school is becoming very popular these days
  4. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    No when he said it he thought they never will and where still in the 60s in terms of technology.
  5. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Why do you support the war in Afghanistan?? You do know that once the us forces leave the local army can't handle them self against the Taliban. So what is the point staying
  6. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    That's exactly the point of staying. I support staying for a few purposes. 1) To continiue to limit Al-Qaeda's strategic and tactical abilities. 2) Weaken the Taliban to a point where they are a non-factor. 3) Train the Afghani local forces to be able to accomplish the first 2 goals without the need of western boots on the ground. While all three goals are being enacted simultaneously, the third is tantamount to the success of our mission there. As you noted, if we were to leave today the local forces wouldn't be able to handle their security requirements. I don't think we can leave until that answer is changed. If you look at Iraq 3-4 years ago, people were saying the same things they are about Afghanistan today. We have shown that it is possible to train a sustainable local force, and unfortunate as it may be that we've squandered so much time there, it would be an affront to the sacrifices made by our brothers in arms, and an affront to the promises we've made to the Afghani people to put them in a situation that leaves the country right back at square one.
  7. LampRevolt Well-Known Member

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    So, why do we give a shit about either country?
  8. Big J Well-Known Member

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    Because we've invested 470 billion dollars and 1,648 soldiers' lives, plus 14,733 soldiers injured. So forgive some people for wanting to make sure our bullshit investment doesn't totally go up in smoke.

    Edit: referring to Afghanistan.
  9. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    If he wanted to get ANYTHING DONE, it would HAVE TO be a compromise. When you have a split congress with one side made up of Tea Party whackjobs and the other of democrats, and you have a democratic president, there is not much you can get done. Look at his jobs bill for example. It was good but the Republicans would not budge because it raised taxes on the rich. Its amazing that he was even able to get them to raise the debt ceiling.
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    JUST MY OPINION:

    I think he should have been unconditional with his promises.

    That would get him more likely elected again, and he could say to the people:"see I try but this fucking republicans wont pass anything, if you would vote me and democratic majority in the house I could make you live better!"
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    Well first of all Iraqi citizens knew why Americans are invading their country, majority of afghans don't (study in 2010 showed that)

    second Iraqi police/army didn't smoke weed in breaks for example. And their families were threatened even if they weren't in the army. So they were/are more likely be motivated and willing to fight.

    But in Afghanistan Taliban doesn't kill random people if they haven't collaborated with USAF for example. They are only threatened if they join the army.

    Al-Qaeda operates in many different countries like Yemen, Pakistan,Philippines etc you want to invade those too??
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    Don't double post.

    On Obama:
    The President doesn't exist to be an ideologue, he exists to preside over the country and make sure that everything doesn't fall apart. Obama couldn't refuse to work with Republicans outright because, for one thing, he campaigned on a platform of bipartisanship, and for two, he would have been unable to accomplish anything without engendering some form of compromise. You overestimate the capacity of the President to enact change and grossly underestimate the role that Congress plays.

    On Afghanistan:
    Your arguments don't make any sense; war is hard so we should give up?
  13. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    Yes after so much death yes. Give it up. And by the way doesn't USA have to vote to go to war or am I wrong??

    On Obama my point the all the time has been that people expected him to crack some balls not do compromises.
    Double post? I post a reply to 2 different people, you can't do that??
  14. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    You can quote multiple people in the same post, or if you forget you can go back and use the edit / delete buttons....

    For general knowledge you can quote people without using the reply button by copying the post into the tags [quote*] and [/quote*] just remove the last asterix.

    Posting twice consecutively is known as double posting, and it is against the rules. That said with the new site and you being a new member I wouldn't worry too much, just try not to make a habit of it...
  15. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    I saw a poll today that shows Cain still ahead of Romney, so based of that info, he might be able to salvage his campaign. If those women go on television he'll be done, thought.
  16. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    So what do you want him to do? Let the country go into utter turmoil? If he did not budge on the debt ceiling, we would have defaulted. I dont care how much he could use that for his campaign, but if we defaulted the whole world is fucked over. Its time to stop thinking Obama should be playing politics.
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    Yeah it has become popular because Keynesian economics is flawed
  18. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    What exactly is Keynesian economics and Hayek. Like i have been hearing alot of negative about Keynesian but i know little about economic theory, so can someone explain it to me???
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    Keynesian economics are also known as "a good basis for policy," "realistic," and "empirically proven to perform well."

    Hayek is the less celebrated "broseph" of Keynes and he's a big fan of the unbridled free market.
  20. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    This is one of my biggest pet peeves. I know you have an Internet connection, Google it.

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