The Morality of the Death Penalty.

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by The Shaw, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Its really high here in Florida, besides more people die waiting in death row then those who are actually executed. China death penalty have been going down but still they have more then a couple thousand a year (officaly)
  2. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Yeah... I heard that the process take SUPER long over there... even in the pro-death states.

    Why put the 'officially' part? They have [provided the case is proven and the person is innocent] every right to put a person to death [legally].
  3. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    there are so many unreported death penalty executions in china.
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    By that logic, I can say that there are alot of 'unreported' death penalty executions in any country. Please provide accurate proof from reputable groups.
  5. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Well its just that unreported so your not going to get much that the Chinese government not going to censor the fuck out of however i believe the Amnesty internation foundation and Dui Hau have some reports stateing the unofficaly at 10,000 while the official is like 1,000 something still with a 1.3 billion population thats like what 0.0001% of the population.
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    Well forced disappearances are higher in China, both relatively and nominally, than in any other country by a wide margin. The outcomes of these are either internment in forced labor camps with political and religious prisoners or execution.
  7. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Well except Iran, China forced disappearances and executions beat everyones. Tough North Korea propley has way more people in Forced labor camps but there is no way to confirm that. But it doesn't matter no one likes China anyways well except for businesses for cheap labor but thats about it.
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    Human sacrifice is barbarism and should have died out with the Aztecs.
  9. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    When did Human Sacrifice to gods get involved in the death penalty. but there are still some tribal groups that do it, but all in all its dieing out (and it was the Aztecs culture strange but it was a part of who they where)
  10. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    I meant links to reports. From government sources preferably. And I need proof of these forced disappearences or at least reputable souces [in links please]. Please check the dates on the information as well.

    @ CubaLibre
    If that is a first attempt at derailing a thread, you need to work on your delivery.

    Note: The 'forced disappearences' topic is a little off-thread-topic.
  11. CubaLibre Member

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    It is my opinion. The "death penalty" serves no practical purpose and exists only to provide some kind of emotional catharsis to bloodthirsty people. It's morally indistinguishable from human sacrifice. I guess it might be worse, because it explicitly exists to propitiate living people instead of imaginary, but hypothetically powerful and transcendent, gods.
  12. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    This is probably alot better than your earlier ramblings.

    Maybe so, maybe not. From what I hear, the death penalty does nothing to lower crime rates in the U.S.

    Oh and about the 'imaginary' thing...
    "When one guy has an imaginary friend, they call him insane. When a million people have the same imaginary name, they call it religion."
    LOL.
    [Not necessarily my beliefs or an expression thereof]
  13. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    the death penalty really has done nothing to lower crime.
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    Have any of you ever considered that some people deserve to die slowly for being excessive douche bag serial killers and some need rehabilitating and some have medical conditions that make them rage. The point is that it is going to stay no matter how immoral or going against the "no cruel or unusual punishment".
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    If you brutally murder 10 people, you deserve the death penalty.
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    I've explained my philosophy on this many times, so I will leave you with a simple exchange. A man once told me, that by using the death penalty, you were removing a stain of evil from this world. I responded quite curtly. I asked him, "Is the termination of a human life anything but creating another stain of evil to replace the old?". Think that over for a while.
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    It is grotesque and irrational to put the state in the business of vengeance.
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    Oh look, I can add one person besides myself to the sane people demographic.
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