Patents

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by The Shaw, Nov 12, 2011.

Page 1 of 2

  1. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

    Member Since:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Trophy Points:
    243
    Location:
    New York
    Are they contrary to the free market, or a necessary form of property rights?

    I currently do not have an opinion, but the thought has occurred to me.
    The Shaw, Nov 12, 2011
    #1

  2. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    6,746
    Likes Received:
    331
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Location:
    Canada
    I only like them when Apple has to pay royalties.
    0bserver92, Nov 12, 2011
    #2

  3. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

    Member Since:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Trophy Points:
    243
    Location:
    New York
    Come to think of it, this thread could be about Intellectual Property rights in general.
    The Shaw, Nov 12, 2011
    #3

  4. CubaLibre Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    24
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    13
    They're certainly a lot more moderate and humane than copyright.
    CubaLibre, Nov 13, 2011
    #4

  5. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    3,949
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    Tempe, Az
    How so? They're pretty much the same thing just for different forms of intellectual property
    pedro3131, Nov 13, 2011
    #5

  6. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Location:
    New York
    *giggles* property "rights" *giggles*

    Patents are a means of protecting the interests of the employing/capitalist class, as well as protecting sub-divisions within the capitalist class.
    Lenin Cat, Nov 13, 2011
    #6

  7. pottman Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Location:
    Illegal Taiwan
    So in your view I can download anything on the internet for free.
    pottman, Nov 13, 2011
    #7

  8. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Location:
    New York
    Yep, all media should be free and open source anyway.
    Lenin Cat, Nov 13, 2011
    #8

  9. pottman Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Location:
    Illegal Taiwan
    What about video games? Or do you think that's a capitalist pass time?
    pottman, Nov 13, 2011
    #9

  10. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Location:
    New York
    Straw-man, I never said its capitalist to play video games. I merely said they should be freely distributed.
    Lenin Cat, Nov 13, 2011
    #10

  11. pottman Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Location:
    Illegal Taiwan
    Just checking, man. You know I'm joking. But really, are you sure people are going motivated enough to make games, once we convert to Anarchism? Just curious.
    pottman, Nov 13, 2011
    #11

  12. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    3,949
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    Tempe, Az
    Why on earth would someone spend the millions of dollars to develop product or a media product, if they can't gain any monetary reward for it. You're basically asking people to sacrifice themselves for your idea of justice because without being able to sell their product they would have spent years working on something without any means of even supporting themselves
    pedro3131, Nov 13, 2011
    #12

  13. pottman Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Location:
    Illegal Taiwan
    According to Lenin Cat, money shouldn't exist.
    pottman, Nov 13, 2011
    #13

  14. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

    Member Since:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Message Count:
    3,949
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    Tempe, Az
    Even given that, what's the impetus to innovate if you're going to be compensated the same regardless of your output?
    pedro3131, Nov 13, 2011
    #14

  15. pottman Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Message Count:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Location:
    Illegal Taiwan
    Don't ask me, ask Lenin Cat.
    pottman, Nov 13, 2011
    #15

  16. CubaLibre Member

    Member Since:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    24
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    13
    Well they both are subject to myriad abuses, but patents last 20 years. Copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the author or, in the case of works created for a corporation, 120 years after creation, thanks to brutal lobbying from Disney. That's an absurd length of time that does nothing to serve the public interest and everything to serve the rentier class. A 20-year patent is reasonable, even maybe slightly too long - it works well enough to allow pharmaceutical companies to be some of the richest in the world and make billions in annual profit. Copyright is just grotesque.
    CubaLibre, Nov 13, 2011
    #16

  17. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Location:
    New York
    Yes.

    In most forms of socialism(all forms of anarchism included), work becomes more of a socialization activity, a hobby, and a means to gain kudos in a community. Rather then a method of increasing your wealth.
    Lenin Cat, Nov 13, 2011
    #17

  18. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

    Member Since:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Trophy Points:
    243
    Location:
    New York
    Lenin, that's preposterous. Nobody would do that.
    The Shaw, Nov 13, 2011
    #18

  19. Lenin Cat Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Message Count:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Location:
    New York
    I don't see why not.
    Lenin Cat, Nov 13, 2011
    #19

  20. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

    Member Since:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Message Count:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Trophy Points:
    243
    Location:
    New York
    You wouldn't, would you? You are willingly ignorant to human nature because it doesn't line up with your societal beliefs that make you feel oh-so-superior. Jerk.
    The Shaw, Nov 13, 2011
    #20
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page

Facebook: