Why Did Japan Use Suicide Tactics.

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  1. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    Well this dosen't answer the question but one thing the Japanese would do was to act like they were surrendering but they had gernades under their armpits and when an American would come up to them to see if they had any weapons on them they would drop the hand gernades can kill themselves and the American.
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    Well in 1945 when USA was bombing the shit out of Japan with Boeing B-29 Superfortresses

    Japanese pilots couldn't shoot the planes down, part because there ammunition didn't go through the planes hull and part because the bomber could shoot the enemy plane down faster, than Japanese pilot the bomber

    So they just crashed to these American bombers. Just because it could save few Japanese civilians.

    But yes it was a waste of doing kamikaze strikes in to ships in a long term....
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    ITS SPELLED BANZAI.
  4. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Dont be a grammar nazi =P.
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    They started to use kamikaze because they didn't have enough fuel to constantly launch attacks from the air. It was a last, desperate swing at the Americans and an effective one. Banzai charges were used because the Japanese troops were indoctrinated to think that the Americans would torture them if they were captured. This is the same reason they started opening fire on civilians being escorted away from the battlefield under the American's wings. Same reason for mass suicide under American occupation, too.

    The Japanese were tough to crack, their biggest weakness was their own command and their fear of speaking out against orders from the top. Basically, lions led by donkeys.
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    Well, Banzai charges were actually very effective, it instilled fear on the Chinese (yes chinese) however the American troops were more disciplined against these charges, the only problems that the Japanese had was that they didn't have the manpower to waste troops on Banzai charges unlike the Soviets did (in their mass charges against Nazis).
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    The Japanese weren't use to fighting trained troops with heavy machinery.
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    Well a mass charge against sub-machine gunners is never gonna go well unless you are the russians.
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    Yes they were. It wasn't their first encounter, and the Marines hardly ever used tanks as most were bogged down in horrendous terrain. They had border skirmishes with the Soviets at places like Khalkhin Gol, they weren't completely new to mechanized warfare.
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    Well they weren't completely overwhelmed but it definitely wasn't an old thing for them.
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    First off, at Khalkin Gol the Soviets still haven't developed their mechanized warfare tactics, they didn't have good tanks and used mass charges as much as the Japanese did. However, at that time the Japanese still hadn't developed their artillery, that's basically why the Soviets succeed at the battle and why the Japanese later had one of the best artillery in WWII.
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    Best mortars in Men of War....:mad:
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    I say it had a overwhelming psychological effect on the US Navy troops, mainly the carrier ships, which were big targets to hit with HE-filled planes striking down. Those things took out ships with just 1 plane. I say that does a great damage to the morale
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    Especially when you have the 2nd best trained navy in the world (refereing to the IJN).

    The IJN couldn't afford to lose ships, since for every ship they took out from the USN, the US built 2-3 more ships, their industrial power for constructing a navy with less than 40 ships, to build the biggest fleet at the end of the war, I'd say the japanese were doomed from the start if they failed at even one mission.
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    The IJN weren't all that scary. You'd be surprised at how easily their largest ship was sunk. The IJN Yamato was the largest battleship in history and a bunch of American torpedoes sunk it on a suicide mission called Ten-Go.
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    Like I said, the sailors were much more prepared to war than the American sailors, or pilots or anyone else, the fact is that the US could afford to lose a lot of ships, plus I don't need to remind you of Kamikazi attacks that with just 1 plane could destroy a whole ship, not to say that they took out of service 23 US ships during the attack on Pearl Harbour, of course they were stationary, but doesn't take out the fact that the US navy ships weren't wonders as well.
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    That's not a very good example. Japan was running out of options at the time and the massive battleships like the Yamato were outdated. Their only hope was to try getting lucky with it, which they weren't thinking at the time because their high command was retarded, but you know. Anyway, Naval Warfare was transitioning from Battleships being vital to Aircraft/Submarines being vital. Japan was just slow to embrace new ideas
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    That's just untrue. They were the first nation to use the carrier tactics to full-power and everyone knew after the attack on Pearl Harbour that the days of the Battleships were over.
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    I assure you, their navy was not outdated. Submarines didn't really work in the Pacific, and the Japanese had already conducted Pearl Harbor. The Zero probably had the best record as a carrier fighter in all of WW2, it could compete with the Americans very well. Japan could embrace new ideas well, they were just too overstretched to transition.
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    I think they used kamikaze tactics during the attack of pearl harbor. They did however revive the old code of the Samurai, Bushido and they saw it as an honor to die in battle. It made the Japanese morale outstanding in combat. And morale is a big part of war.

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