Why Germany Has Stayed The Dominate Power In Europe

Well Its a major part of the UN and I remember hearing about the disaster relief efforts with those giant wildfires in Europe like a couple years ago. Most European nations are "peacekeepers", but Germany is one of the most powerful.

Exactly. How can they be peacekeepers when they no longer have a massive army?

http://icasualties.org/oef/
2,815 Coalition casualties occupying Afghanistan.
http://antiwar.com/casualties/
1,838 US casualties in Iraq.
319 other Coalition casualties.

HUGE WARS MAN

The Afghanistan War has been going on for a long time. There's thousands of civilian casualties, add on all of the "insurgents" and that is up into the hundred thousand for wounded, dead and MIA.

As for Iraq, there could be up to one million.

Don't just count the USA and her Allies.

Of course there would be greater casualties for the enemy, but it's not like hundreds of thousands of people are dying. And if you level wounded as you would level killed then many companies have done more harm than both wars.
With modern medicine, only the most mortal of injuries actually make a difference physically.

The insurgency isn't going around just lighting shit on fire to lit shit on fire. They're going after objectives as we are. I doubt more than 10,000 deaths have been related to the entire Afghan war.

A million casualties in Iraq? lolwut? Oh sure, if you count every possible thing remotely related to the war in any way possible MAYBE you'd be somewhere near a million, but you can't just blow statistics out of your ass.

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=iz&v=26

In point of fact, the death rate has been GOING DOWN and is now at ~5 deaths a year per 1,000 people. Iraq has around ~160,000 deaths per year, as oppose to ~200,000 ten years ago.

It's hard to count civilian casualties, as what is an insurgent and not just a crazed gunman angry at the US? Should any injuries during Occupy Wall-street be counted as injuries caused by the US Government?

I'm saying tens of thousands are dying. If you take out wounded and MIA that's still a high number. I'm pretty sure there's been far more than 10,000 seeing as the War in Afghanistan has been going on for 10 years.

The Iraq War spawned a genocide. That's more than enough proof to see that the casualties are in the hundreds of thousands. It doesn't matter how steady the death rate is right now, you have to take the entire war into consideration.

A guy that's pissed off at the government and opens fire on people is what the USA would define as an insurgent because he's rising up against the government. If American soldiers started killing people at OWS I'd count that as injuries caused by the US government.

You know Germany has only existed for like 30 years now...

I love how this is gone completely off topic I set up this tread to talk about Germany staying the dominate power and Im now getting the war in the middle east and America constantly being in wars

Of all the things I have ever heard in my life, this perhaps offends me the most. There is always a Germany!

I think he means as a federal republic after the fall of the berlin wall in 1989, however as a group and as a hole the German people have allways been around even during the days of the Romans.

I know, I know, although for some reason I always assumed the current Germany is identical to West Germany in all but name and territory.

Yes and no its been a very good blend, which may be why the SDP and socialist parties do so well in germany, but then again they allways have.

Good blend?! Made me lol 'cos I just made a comment about tea in another thread.
Anyway, I agree, although I was under the impression there's little love for the former DDR unless you're unemployed, (that makes me sound kinda free-market, but oh well) not that that should impact Germany's socialist tradition and yay for unified Germany!

The SDP party is doing very well in Germany, and i predict it will gain alot if not all together win in the next German parliamentary elections.

Weeellllllll.... (coughs and points to avatar) germany A. was created in the 1870's thanks to Otto van kick-your-ass bizzy. 2. Germany, in TWO wars killed over 30 million people. alot of small wars DON'T MAKE UP TWO WORLD WARS. granted they didn't start WWI, so if you'd like to take that off. be my guess, but you still have WWII to argue with. America has doubtfully killed the 25+ million people Germany did in that one war than in our whole span as a country. 3. as for being a peacekeeper... of economies? when you kill millions of people your not usually alowed to rebuild your army again. so depends what "peacekeeper" were using.

dont start with that bull-shit please. so many people say "it was europes fault". sure but, would you rather be called dishonorable, diliked hated, now more prone to have war declared upon you. no. it's basically promising a friend help in a fight, then bailing out last minute. its cheap and lousy, and more than enough people would rather be called honorable and die fighting then die dishonorable.