A 12 year old was playing with his two year old brother, when accidentally he killed his brother playing some game most likely. He is currently being tried as an adult here in Florida. Is this right? Should this kid, who by an accident killed his brother, be tried as if he was an adult? And, while we are talking about this, should any kid below the age of 18 be tried as an adult even if it includes murder?
I voted yes but like somewhere around 14 or 15 because thats the age when the fuckers start using their brains to do things.
Well first of all it was accidental. So he would probably be convicted of involuntary man slaughter. And yea children unless they are under 10 should be tried as adults.
To me the whole thing is really complicated, but I guess a kid could be tried as an adult in situations where he/she intentionally commits a crime with knowledge of the consequences. But hey, what the hell do I know.
Yes, because the issue is going to be too varied and people are going to switch it around per one. We need rhythm in our courts. Though in prison life is going to suck for them a whole lot worse. Also need i remind everyone of Mary anne bell.
2 variables 1: The crime 2: Beyond the age of reason (14 years old) If I feel these 2 variables are met then Yes, but otherwise, Absolutely not.
Lets not forget that monsters are made not born. Mary Anne Bell was a creation of an abusive mother. The mother was herself a prostitute who various times tried to kill Mary and make it look like an accident. Mary herself says she was subject to repeated sexual abuse, her mother forcing her from the age of four to engage in sex acts with men. If you had been in her shoes you would have been just as messed up as her. Mary WAS the victim. This issue isn't black and white. You can't just say," Yup, she killed a little boy, she deserves to rot in jail." What Mary needed was help and that's probably what most of these kids need too. By the way, lets not forget that the human brain isn't fully developed by this age and that by the ages of most of theses kids we all lacked any solid reasoning skills. PS: I agree that a criminal over the age of 16 should be tried as an adult if needed, but anything between the 14-15 range can all depend on many variables. Any child below 13 should not be allowed to be tried as an adult.
By that notion all people who have any abusive parents should not be a held accountable for her crimes, Hitler had an abusive father so i guess we should forgive him then? Life sucked for her in the begging, however while i agree that Mary life was sad and she did need help, i ask in what way do you reply help? cause one your childhood is that fucked up the internal effects are not going away and it would be far better to try her as an adult and get her real "help" and not that bullshit help we gave back in the day where we just did social experimentation. But its still not like i can go "My dad hit me while i was a child and my uncle touched me, is it o.k if i kill people now?"
And what do you propose? Sending a little girl to jail? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/22/edlington-brothers-bulger-rehabilitation Bullshit help huh?
I believe the age should be lowered so that your only a child if your under 16. If you commit a crime at 17 you may as well have done it at 25. Your pretty much developed to understand things. If there is evidence that they knew exactly what they were doing and knew exactly what the consequences were(meaning, they knew they were killing someone else, and knew that killing someone else would make them dead) then they could be tried as an adult. However it seems pointless to put a 10 year old as an adult. It is probably some semantics issue in the Florida courts.
No, I do not think a child should be charged as an adult if he is below 18, or atleast 16. If a child commits a crime, the first or second thing I would look at would be his or her parents. Parenting is the major factor in how a child behaves, they're the greatest influence on a child all the time up untill the child has reached adulthood, and it will still be the greatest influence even a while after that. A fully healthy and sound of mind 16 year old guy doesn't just murder somebody (to take an extreme example), and the parents are responsible for raising a child right, therefor I think the parents should take responsibility for his actions.
I think the children above the age of 13 or 14 should face punishment for their crimes if there is evidence of him/her commiting the crime.
But why? They probably didn't know better if they did such a thing. It's not like if you raise your children good they will walk around committing crimes, or that if you don't give a shit about your child he's gonna grow up as a well law-abiding citizen with descent morals (for the most part).
Not from the 90s, from back in the way old times when we did medical experimentation on them, nor did i say send her to jail in any of my post i only pointed out that one should never blame his or her actions on the past (Though i still support the best of medical support) Next It is far better to try adults as children for you making the false impression that there children so its not as bad, as well as that its completely biased to the fact that you can have a 10 year old kid charged as a kid and a 11 year charged as an adult (which happens based off the view points of the Jury and the judge at the time) It is far better to try them to adults, and yes i agree rehabilitate them, but don't go his past justifies his crimes.
The reason i think they should face it becouse by that time they'll know what is wrong becouse most schools teach them not to do stupid shit and at their parents tell them what's right or wrong(most of the times).
I think it really depends on the crime. for Murder, yes, but for things like stealing, that's what juvie's for.
First of all stealing is stealing and still a crime shouldn't be given special treatment, next how much was stolen (if it was a candy piece then its not worth a Juvie sentence, however if you steal alot of fucking money then by all means take the fucker to jail) DO IT LIKE THEY DO IN GOOD OL IRAN, CUT THERE HANDS OFF.
