THIS IS WHAT A POLICE STATE LOOKS LIKE!

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by Lenin Cat, Nov 26, 2011.

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  1. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    Like destroying the 'Free' market? (Get on skype, g)
    ComradeLer, Nov 29, 2011
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  2. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    So the senate just added a provision allowing for Americans to be held indefinitely. All that is left now is for the White House to veto it and the Supreme Court to declare it unconstitutional.
    MayorEmanuel, Nov 30, 2011
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  3. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Thats another thing. The Supreme Court would just instantly declare it unconstitutional if it ever ever got passed and for some reason Obama did not veto it.
    slydessertfox, Nov 30, 2011
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  4. ComradeLer Proud Anti-Patriot

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    So, the senate passed the bill, 93-7. So, yeah..
    ComradeLer, Dec 3, 2011
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  5. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    Well, isn't that wonderful.
    BattalionOfRed, Dec 3, 2011
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  6. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    For the record they
    Nope.... The unless you can provide me the amendment with the actual text to deny this but I just spent the past hour combing through amendments... What the Senate did do was they rejected an amendment that would limit the authority of the armed forced to detain US citizens. That said it isn't overtly stated anywhere in this bill that they would be granted that power. People are arguing that it doesn't expressely prohibit it which is why they proposed the amendment, but given the Obama administrations stance on this it seems unlikely that they would interpret the law in such a manner. If you feel like writting your sentator about the issue here is the roll coll vote list on the amendment.... http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00214

    5 republicans voted for the amendment, and 12 democrats voted against it...

    This is also true, however it would seem likely that the court would be willing to issue a writ of certiorari on this one as it would violate other precedents it has set. Also, bear in mind the legislature has no power to enforce laws, so even if this gets through Obama's veto the administration would still have to be the one to enforce it, which given it's statements on the issue, it seems unwilling to do
    pedro3131, Dec 4, 2011
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  7. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Well that sounds comforting.
    slydessertfox, Dec 6, 2011
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  8. CrazyManiac Well-Known Member

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    Well the bill S.1867 passed in votes for 93 and againts 7. I hope that the people thinking about the law, THINK REAL HARD, make the right choice and throw it to a trash can, before it can be made into a law. Oh the bill name is National Defense Authority act, if you guys want to look it up
    CrazyManiac, Dec 9, 2011
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  9. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    I'll be doing a political podcast about this, similar to the coffee house, once all my background research is done. Hopefully by wens or thrs
    pedro3131, Dec 10, 2011
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  10. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    Where would I be able to view this?
    CoExIsTeNcE, Dec 10, 2011
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  11. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    slydessertfox, Dec 10, 2011
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  12. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Ill post a media thread on this site
    pedro3131, Dec 10, 2011
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  13. pottman Well-Known Member

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    The Terrorists won, by making the US paranoid and suspicious of its own people. And the only hope of getting out of this, is fucking Obama.
    pottman, Dec 14, 2011
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  14. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Bill passed, but the whole "Being denied due process by the military." thing was removed. Now we wait and see how SOPA plays out.
    Demondaze, Dec 15, 2011
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  15. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Can you cite that? I'm wrapping up my piece about s. 1867 and haven't read anything about them removing the detention clauses.
    pedro3131, Dec 15, 2011
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  16. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Demondaze, Dec 15, 2011
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  17. pottman Well-Known Member

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    It's funny no one is talking about this, besides Current and The Guardian.
    pottman, Dec 15, 2011
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  18. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    What about the post directly above yours?
    CoExIsTeNcE, Dec 16, 2011
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  19. pottman Well-Known Member

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    My bad then.:oops:
    pottman, Dec 16, 2011
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  20. UnholyKnight800 Well-Known Member

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    It's ok, just walk it off. ;)
    UnholyKnight800, Dec 16, 2011
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