I would like to direct this quote at Toast. It is from Fyodor Dostoevsky's The Underground Man Oh, tell me, who was it that first announced, who was it first proclaimed, that man only does nasty things because he does not know his own interests; and that if he were enlightened, if his eyes were opened to his real normal interests, man would at once cease to do nasty things, would at once become good and noble because, being enlightened and understanding his real advantage, he would see his own advantage in the good and nothing else, and we all know that not one man can, consciously, act against his own interests, consequently, so to say, through necessity, he would begin doing good? Oh, the babe! Oh, the pure, innocent child! Why, in the first place, when in all these thousands of years has there been a time when man has acted only from his own interest? What is to be done with the millions of facts that bear witness that men, CONSCIOUSLY, that is fully understanding their real interests, have led them in the background and have rushed headlong on another path, to meet peril and danger, compelled to this course by nobody and by nothing, but, as it were, simply disliking the beaten track, and have obstinately, wilfully, struck out another dicult, absurd way, seeking it almost in the darkness.
No, I think CoD is shit now. Especially after MW 3 which was an identical fucking game to MW 2 yet every other CoD player seemed to not realise this. An experienced modding team could have made that game in 6 months. It should not take a game dev 2 fucking years.
Then that idea is dangerous and un-ethical and only crazy people would follow it, but people will commit the crime not the idea.
In your opinion what is worse the people who commit the crime or the institution that allows the crime to continue.
You talk of the institution as if it is a being, that to is run by the people. The crusades and other wars/genocides (just anything bad associated with religion) were not a result of the religion but a result of politics. Religion used to be a weapon used by leaders to instigate wars which they used to achieve objectives.
Which is why the organisation of religion into institutions claiming monopolies on truth and morality should be prohibited in a decent society.
I back Toast up in his argument.Im a born and bread Catholic and I wont forget my roots but Im never going back to the church (except for wedding,Baptisms etc.).I suppose I think this because of my country having so much bloodshed of religion.Especially that damn Omagh bomb which I lost a cousin to.
* Yawn* The metaphysical argument of what region is real or not is never productive, important or particularly interesting.
When dealing with such issues truth can never be assertained completly, and morality must always be subjective to the situation, or if objective must contain so many caveats as to be indistinguishable. Regardless such ponderings can be entirely fullfilled by free debate and personal thought and do not require the construction of organisations dedicated to the idea of dogmatism.
Props on using the word "dogmatism" correctly. You will not believe the amount that word has been missused in these religious threads.
Sadly, a small vocal minority tend to give a sour taste about all religions as well as atheism. While I don't share the same beliefs that you do I wholeheartedly agree with your statements here. Especially the last paragraph. Live and let live. The only disagreement I have with what you said is that I'm also fine with it if you want to be hate filled. And, please, be vocal about that hate. Lets the rest of us sane people know to stay far away from you. And that you're an idiot.
