Greatest Military Leaders of all Time

And singlehandedly lost the war in its most decisive battle...

And Lee really only was able to hold off Mcellan and the other generals for so long was because they were so fucking cautious. And their intelligence was so bad that at times they thought Lee had 250,000 men... Don't get me wrong though, Lee was an amazing commander.

Yes you are correct 100% , Lee at the battle of Gettysburg felt that his men were invincible so that is why he ordered his troops to charge cemetary ridge on the third day instead of listening to his friend General Longstreets advice, And also i now remember what you mean with Mclellan and Hooker and Meade all three of them were very cautious which cost them many of their mens lives and over 4 yrs of fighting....but ofcourse no general in history was without their flaws...

Well he charged on the third day of Gettysburg because he thought he had wasted too many lives and too much effort to turn back now. It is believed that he was not feeling well during the battle for gettysburg, and this may have contributed to his bad decisions. Longstreet himself was very cautious, which I believe is one reason Lee did not listen to him about going around cemetery ridge instead of attacking it, because he knew that at times Longstreet was too cautious. Longstreet did not even want to invade Northern territory to begin with, and only agreed when Lee convinced him they would try to fight defensively during the invasion. (if that makes sense)

Lee was an amazing general though. What he had accomplished by daringly dividing his forces in previous battles (which if it were not for the Union's cautious generals could have been disasterous) and virtually defying all laws of warfare and still coming out on top is absolutely astounding. I would rank him as probably the best American commander ever.

1. Michael Collins (because o' my bit o' Irish heritage)
2. Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
3. Erwin Rommel
4. Paul Von Hindenburg
5. Robert E. Lee
6. Julius Caesar
7. Nader Shah
8. Timur The Lame
9. George S. Patton
10. Alexander the Great (10th only because of his Ego)

Ego?

edit: Do you mean after he went to Egypt? Because before that he did not have much of an ego.

yes, after egypt, because all the cities named "Alexandria".

So he's 10th on your list just because he has a big ego? He certainly has more military accomplishments than anyone else on your list.

Didn't Alexander like stab one of his friends because he refused to worship Alexander as a God?

He gave Darius a royal funeral and tracked down and killed his killer.

The reason I like Patton for the most part it that he was willing to fight and push farward they Attack, also because my Grandfather was in Patton's 3rd Army and my Grandfather liked Patton.
Now for the list Jeanne of Arc I feel was more of a morale boosters than a military tactician to the French, but I really don't know to much about her.

He knows how to type in English, I doubt it, although I do see how some one can be confused with the names, I've never heard of those last two.

Also, I agree with Zhukov being high up on the 'list'. I disagree with Napoleon, I assume the system they had to determine the list was flawed on the count of how effective they were in their time and with their situations. With Napoleon, he was said to be the best in leading artillery, however, by World War 2, the Soviets had Katyusha's, and the Nazi's had Nebelwerfer's, both were rocket artillery, and was ahead of it's time, and the barrages were far more effective than Napoleon's cannon in his time. I don't know if Zhukov commanded platoons with Katyusha's, but if he did, he'd most likely be at the top with Napoleon.

10.Patton
9.Nelson
8.Che
7.Lee
6.Atilla
5.Zhukov
4. Alexander
3.Julius Caesar
2.Napoleon
1.Gaius Marius

Why Marius at number 1?

He did won almost every battle he fought before his sixth consulship.
His reforms in the military like the landless can join the legion was brilliant too.
Remember it's only my opinion.

I was going to say Ernesto "Che" Guevara. Not only was he a great military leader, but he also had some damn good quotes, like "At the risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love." "Che" has to be one of my top historical figures of all time

I understand, I was just curious.