Iowa Cacuses

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  1. HunttheCunt Member

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    So Iowa is less than a week away. For those who follow American politics its certainly quite exciting. Ron Paul (who I'm sure many of you are fans of) looks to be the slight front runner. Mitt Romney is right on his tail and somehow Rick Santorum seems to be rising in the polls. Theres a lot of interesting things at play in Iowa. It appeared that the large socially conservative Christian voters were divided on who they wanted to best represent their efforts to stop us from having a good time, but if the recent polls are to be believed Rick Santorum may be their man. Now, he probably isn't going to be able to pull off what Huckabee did in '08, but a third or even second place finish could make him a major spoiler to some candidate. Honestly watching the caucus this year is my Super Bowl, very competitive very hard to predict with huge ramifications on the race.
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    The Caucuses have been good to my candidate. Sad Santorum is doing good. I am praying Paul doesn't win. Its also sad Romney is doing good, but at least Gingrich isn't doing good. Its funny how bad Bachmann has done in her birth state. Huntsman can't catch a break. Gov. Perry has surged from where he was at the beginning of the month, but at his current position, and the fact non of the momentum is spilling over into Iowa is scaring me a little. He needs something big to become a strong contender again, but its not impossible. I completely with Huckabee's prediction about the bad weather affecting the votes, because come hell or high water a Ron Paul supporter will vote on Jan. 3.
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    For the sake of America, if you don't want Huntsman, Romney, or Paul to win, just don't vote. Because Perry and Bachman appear to be mentally handicapped. Not that the three of them are particularly tolerable, but at the very least, they won't put the country even farther down the shitter.

    Anyway, with the current field of Republicans, it looks like Obama is going to sweep the board without to much of a fight. Better than the alternatives, that's for sure.
  4. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    Don't underestimate the majority of american's who are in fact conservatives, I won't be surprised if Obama loses, with the way the media is turning on him, i'm about 30% sure we will get a Republican in office.
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    I predict the unthinkable, I think Ron Paul will win out in Iowa. I mean he’s got the ground game covered with an unshakable base of support and he’s been running ton of ads in the state both negative and positive. His major weakness is that he doesn’t have party support. The establishment hates his guts and will seemingly do anything to stop him or slow him down, but I think that’s part of the appeal of Ron Paul because the Republican establishment isn’t particularly popular right now, so who knows. Maybe all this hate from the establishment will back fire and launch Paul to victory.

    Personally though I am with the first poster I think this is an exciting race to watch and I can’t wait to see who wins. Even though I think they would all make awful presidents.
  6. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Santorum's appeal in Iowa is twofold. 1) He's spent nearly all of his time / money campaigning there so while he doesn't have a huge national footprint, his awareness is through the roof in Iowa. 2) He is probably the most fundamentalist/religious of the candidates out there and that meshes well with a lot of Iowa conservatives. Still don't think he'll win, but he'll do much better in Iowa then anywhere else.
  7. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    Then he can't win the caucus.
  8. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    I am hoping for a miracle to happen and Huntsman to win if not in Iowa then at least in new Hampshire.
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    There might be a lot of conservatives who want Obama out of office right now, but as their candidates fall like dominoes, who are they going to be able to rally behind? All the candidates are severely flawed, and none are charismatic enough to sway people strictly with pretty words. The Republicans are in deep trouble, and unless they can maintain a charismatic front runner without a checkered past, they aren't going anywhere.
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    Obama is like Emperor Palpatine. Can't get rid of him until Darth Vader throws him down a bottomless pit.
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    That's my opinion as well. No matter which candidate wins, none of theme are really good enough to unify the party, so it really inhibits their ability to succeed. Huntsman won't win, period.
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    No matter what I think Obama's going to win but I think it's going to be a close election because you are going to have people just vote for who ever wins the Republican ticket because their a Republican and their not Obama. You will have people stupid enough to do that.
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    I'm hoping that Romney or Santorum wins. I support Romney because he's good at fixing problems, especially economics.
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    Romney and Huntsman are probably the only ones who stand a chance at beating Obama. If Paul was the nominee without a doubt a hardline Conservative would run as an independent but considering 47% of Republicans say they'd never vote for him under any circumstances (more than Bachmann) his odds of winning the nomination are slim. The Republicans seem to be making the mistake of thinking Obama is so vulnerable that they can nominate anyone and they can defeat Obama. That's what was behind their flirtations with Bachmann, Perry, Cain and Gingrich. They don't want to compromise and nominate Romney, who stands a good chance of beating Obama.

    Huntsman won't win Iowa because he hasn't spend any time there. He's put all his chips in New Hampshire and barring a miracle, won't even win that. I'm hoping he gets a spot on the bottom of the ticket, or even a Secretary of State in a Republican cabinet. He's only 52 which leaves a lot of time for him to build his name up more and launch a run in 2016 or 2020 depending on who wins this time around.
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    I want Mitt to win as he is quite plainly the most capable of them all to lead and has some good ideas.
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    Part of me wants Ron Paul to win for it will bring great lulz to a political campaign.
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    That's what i want to happen too! Wanna see an America under Ron Paul even though its i know.. not possible.
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    I am of course talking here about the party insiders and establishment, not the rank and file members because realistically those rank and file members can change their affiliation pretty easily.
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    Its not very hard to change your party affiliation to attend a caucus. I would argue that most Paul supporters aren't Republicans, they've just taken the necessary measure to enable them to vote for their demi-god. Paul lead in Iowa is a function of his extensive ground game, and the divided interests of the various factions of the GOP. If he wins he's likely not going to break 25%, whereas Huckabee got 35% in 2008. It will take a perfect storm for him to win (which apparently may come true literally) and it looks like he's getting it.

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