1. Yes, the BOS have enough private radios to radio messages along lines to destinations. No, they cannot go directly from one end of the BOS terrictory to the other, that is just out of their reach at the moment. But they CAN send messages up and down the empire with short-range radios.When bases are established, one of the primary goals is the creation of a working network of communication. That is just common sense. The messages can pass from the frontier outposts to the nearest bases, than to the bases near those, so on and so forth. The messages can reach destinations quickly. [reletively] 2. Remember that no specific timeline was established. As it is, I think that we can safely assume that the message took some time to reach everywhere. Days, parhaps a week or two. But remember that there are radios and that those radios can at least cover a reasonable distance. 3. Remember that the BOS has been taking land for a while now. As the decendents of a military organization, they think like a military organization. The logic follows that establishing communication would be a primary goal to secure a region. So I hardly think that I need to post such. 4. Of course the story is expanding to an unprecidented scale. FO was an RPG. RPGs only get so large, because they can only be so complicated. Because we are now taking FO from a RTS point of view [with no set limits, no less] the field will naturally expand within the ability of the technology presented as canon and their natural extensions. The original boundries of the RPG are large enough to accomidate all the players, but as it is, there is a land grab going on because no-one wants to fight. The reason for that is that there are no limits to the way in which the fighting takes place. Therefore, every battle is basically the godmodding of one player against the others'. 5. What in the world do you mean 'incorrect'? What is 'incorrect' about the land grabs that were made. The lands were unclaimed by players [or abandoned or seemingly abandoned] and I took them. There is nothing 'incorrect' about them. Granted, no-one took into account any real losses during expansion, but neither were there any starting conditions or prerequsites to getting more units. And the lore basically only subscribes a small amount of the former US to be covered comprehensively. Add onto that the fact that at some point there was an unspoken and yet unanimous decision to sweep aside all of the canon factions [besides my own BOS and the other BOS and the Shi and a little of the Legion] to make way for player factions without accounting for the affects that such a momenteous event would have, and you realize, now, as I have, that the game was never meant to really have boundries. Other than those of the imagination, of course. 6. Remember that I am attempting to adhere as logically to canon as I can under the circumstances that were created. As the Midwestern BOS, with the vanishing of both the Legion and the NCR, as well as the Enclave, I became virtually unopposed and the only group who would logically, based on the lore, ascend to dominance. Even with being beaten back by the Legion, with the Legion mystereously vanishing along with the Enclave, I can take a large area unopposed. With the NCR gone, the Midwestern BOS would reunite with the Western BOS. With the Legion gone, the Midwestern BOS would have access to Texas and the Texan BOS. With the Enclave gone and their technology and knowledge in the hands of the Midwestern BOS, it would only be a matter of time before the BOS reunite in the Capital Wasteland. With the new recruitment and technology policies of the Midwestern BOS, the BOS would thrive and eventually take back the US from chaos. The fact of the matter is that the only major factions were removed under the pretexts of this game and the mid-weight factions would win, which is really only the splinter groups of the BOS. OOC: If you REALLY are bothered by my previous post about BOS response, how about we discuss bringing some structure to this game?
OOC: Honestly, it seems unfair to all of the other players if you just grab all of the land. Give some time between your land grabs to give equal opportunities for the players. Heck, how much land do I have now, very little in comparison to you. I got SFB, southern california, hawaii, nippon (japan), and some islands in the pacific. I'm making other factions to help prevent this like Manchuria and the Suluwesi. This is starting to degrade to the point where it is not fun anymore. And trying to force the "canon" into the game is not making it any more fun. We don't even have an established time period!! But that is my rant Our stock of oil we had since the establishment of Oakland is getting low because our constant use of planes. We start looking for alternatives. Since we have an excess of power generated from our power plants, designs of a high capacity battery is being produced. This battery will replace the oil engines we have been using for our planes. We have been talking to Manchuria about the cave dwellers. They seem scared of the cave dwellers, but they are in no way hostile. But then they show us a video on a pre-war projector. It showed people in what seemed to be labour camps and "death farms" as they call it. The Manchurians say that their ancestors were oppressed by the cave dwellers before the war. That is the reason why they want to get rid of them, so that history doesn't repeat itself. We start making talks to them of not taking hostile actions towards them, but let them join their people. Although it was hard for them, the manchurians accepted this deal. They also want to ally and trade with us. They keep on referring to our leader as "a scholar". We denounce the claims from the BoS that Oakland uses genocide to solve our problems. We do not have any history of using genocide at all to solve issues. We have been making great attempts to help preserve life after the apocalypse.
OCC: I can wait until you finish this game, but you've gone so far with the BoS. They only take a strong member from each tribe and in return give protection. Having a large number of troops dowsnt make sense, and where do you store them? Not every state ha a bunker (maybe a destroyed vault). Also the BoS would never go outside North America because their focus was technology which they could adapt back at base, and ships were destroyed.
Tawahon ships have set out in asia to find any form of life.While they started they've reached Papua New-Guinie.Most of the population has been wiped out in the war but tribals have been found.The arriving explorers have related in them as of the tribal tradition.Tawahon assistance has been sent to help them create a nation capable of defending itself.
OOC: Look at my posts about the Pacific. I already found Indonesia and there were nations already there. They were the Brunei, the Suluwesi, and Java. Plus, I already found Asia, look at my previous posts. We have opened diplomacy with the cave dwellers. They have agreed to come up to the surface. We gave them tinted glasses and cloaks because the sunlight might have a dangerous effect on their health. The first few came up and a grown man asked " What's that bright orb in the sky?" We told him "That's the sun, don't stare at it for too long." These people have been down there for a long time. Suluwesi have asked for assistance. Some people have landed on the eastern coast of Guinea. Guinea is the largest island and home to the Suluwesi so there is no doubt that they are concerned. Suluwesi has little control over East Guinea so they suspect that the tribes might be planning something with the "mysterious people".
I know but you haven't really talked about New Guinea. The native tribals of New Guinea have learned much from us like sciences,survival tactics etc. The explorers have set sail again. Now they have sailed to New Zealand and Australia. In New Zealand the explorers thought they have found the heavens. The land was full of life and almost no radiation. They remained in isolation for 240 years. All animals on the islands were living and well. We have begged for trade agreements and an embassy but they wanted lots of money. We had to accept it even for a high cost of 15 400 Denarius(154000 caps). When we sailed to Australia we got a cold welcome. We radioed them that we come in peace but they opened fire on us. Our ships have been hit numerous times so we had to retreat to P.New Guinea.The Grand Chief has sent out more ships with soldiers to guard the explorer ships in the future.
OOC: Oh I didn't specify the areas too much. I did discover Indonesia, which includes Guinea. The Suluwesi are troubled by the tribes in east Guinea. The tribes have somehow gained laser rifles, power armor, and other resources. The Suluwesi ask for military assistance from us in case these tribes attack. We have sent peacekeepers over to Guinea to guard the border.
The teachings are for survivng in the wilderness not attacking.But we wouldn't give them power armor and all that nonsense.maybe it was Australia >.> <.<
OOC: We talked about "mysterious men", we did not specify who it was. It could have been just you, or a "third party" that provided the power armor. Suluwesi say that they want to assert more control over the tribes in east guinea to help prevent a rebellion. We send guards to protect suluwesian diplomats in case of any attacks.
OOC: "Control" by BOS terminology is a loose term. "Control" in the majority of the BOS terrictory [basically outside of the Chicago area as defined by FO: Tactics] is really that bases [both underground and on the surface] were established and the locals accepted BOS provisional law and authority. If you got confused, I apologize. But in reality, it seemed kind of... repetative to keep saying this every time the BOS expanded. The only real "Controlled" terrictory outside of the above defined area as "controlled" is really those bordering Surf with some more [but loose] hold on areas around the Oakland... guys [what are you called again?]. The longer the BOS control a terrictory, the more "controlled" it becomes. True, but not true. For the purposes of the game [admittedly, the expansion of the BOS left the Oakland... guys little choice but to move out of the US] I desided to do so as well. Also, the BOS as I am playing as is derived from the Midwestern BOS policies, which are much different from those of the Western BOS. I assimilated all of the BOS factions under one banner for the purposes of convienience and because it made sense. Ships were destroyed, yes, but it is said nowhere that all were destroyed. In any case, the ships being used are ships that were made ingame. Other than the Shi, the BOS was warning against genocide, not that you have committed genocide. Btw: The Shi-BOS Expeditionary Force has arrived in the Middle Kingdom. The BOS continue to claim Britain and succeed in taking the rest of Necro-Lord's land [the Eastern US].
Seeing that the BoS started to conquer a neutral faction, Oakland has raise its security levels. The Draft Act was signed by the leader. This act allows the military to draft able men in times of war or great tension. The situation in East Guinea has gone relatively peaceful. Most of the tribes agreed to the more control by the Suluwesi government. But the ones who got power armor and laser rifles were more hostile. One convoy got ambushed by one of the tribes with the weapons. The firefight ended up killing the diplomat and 4 of our troops. We attacked their village and the tribe elder is being held in prison for his actions. We are now trying to get information from him on where he got the power armor and weapons. We ask the TGoSF to investigate the matters of the East Guinea tribes getting power armor. The batteries have been completed and are now being installed on our planes. They will also be installed on gatling lasers, laser rifles, and laser turrets.
OOC: Conquer him? I thought we have already gone over this: he has had [last it was discussed on this thread] not been on since mid-December. I naturally assumed that he would be like the... 5000 other people who have membership on the forums, but don't post. It is no different than if I said that I was conquering an unclaimed area. Under the right circumstances, if he came back and said that he wanted to play, I would just give him back his land like nothing happened. Its not that I am going to war with other players... yet. Surf seems to be trying to start something. The BOS continue to take the Britian.
OOC: I'm being realistic here. If some faction decides to take another neutral factions land, I would get worried.
How on earth does the BOS expand like cockroaches?Takes ALL of south america AND Britain in a week or so?SRSLY. Tawahon are shocked,disturbed, and angry about the BOS owerthrow of the free republic of the Ghoul Coalition.The military is now on full alert in fear of the BOS taking action on us.In Auktopolis a wall on the western Brotherhood part of the city is built.Only on two heavliy guarded checkpoints people pass through. The Tawahon request a military allience with Oakland and the Suluwesi.
Oakland accepts this alliance. The Suluwesi decline the offer of the alliance with Tawahon because they have more important matters in their homeland, but they wish you safety and peace.
OOC: Really, guys, this is just foolishness. He left the game. Eventually, one of you [or both] would have forgotten that he owned that territory and moved to take it anyways. That you slacked and didn't notice is not my fault. Under any game mechanics, if would be rendered as if he never existed in the first place. The Shi take the territories of Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Macau as well as send troops into Southeast Asia. The BOS look on.
OOC: Actually, I never forgot that he owned the territories. I would expect him to come back sometime, but to take his land while he is gone is unfair. Even if you give it back to him, he will most like be pissed off at you and join an alliance with the other players. In the end, bad move dude. The Manchurians came back to us because of the invasion of their land by foreigners. They say that they look exactly like the "Outcast" peacekeeper at the embassy. If this is true, then the Shi must have invaded Manchuria for some reason. Nevertheless, we have an alliance with Manchuria and we have no choice but to honor it. The Second Shi War: Invasion of Manchuria" has begun. We ask none of our other allies to assist us with this war because the Manchurians called us to fight, not us. We start moving to South Manchuria. OOC: Sounds like a movie title doesn't it? In other news, domesticated molerats! Trainer have turned this tunnel dwelling pest into a household pet. The molerats have the same smelling capabilities as dogs, have a powerful bite, and they breed fast. They will be used in police work and personal ownership.
OOC: In that case, I probably shouldn't give it back, should I? And what did you expect me to do, leave the land lying there? Technically speaking, you are the foreigners. The Shi are returning home and the BOS are just tagging along to help. The Shi take territory as far north as Nanjing and west as the borders of the Tibet. They dig in and ask for assistance from the BOS. The BOS promise to open negotiations, but are hesitent the start a war.
OOC: Okay now you are just being a dick. BoS, pah!!! More like the Empire of Steel. First you made surf quit, who's next. OOC: I don't own Manchuria, I am allied with them and I'm just honoring my alliance. Manchuria is an NPC nation. Manchuria will not tolerate their lands being taken by invaders. Manchuria has told us that the cave dwellers are fleeing to the occupied territories on mass saying " the middle kingdom will be united!". We assume that this is the reason why the Shi are taking so much land so quickly. Manchuria asks that we bring more of our military to combat the Shi. We start moving our Airforce to Nippon and bases in Manchuria to perform bombing runs on Shi military outposts and bunkers. We start moving our Navy to Taiwan for a blockade on the entire island. We now understand why Manchuria were scared of the cave dwellers. We request that the BoS do not get involved with this war. This is a war of defending Manchuria's land and we are simply honoring our alliance. Do you now see how aggressive the Shi are to other nations. First they attack my scout's without warning, and now they start invading a neutral nation with the claims of "Uniting the Middle Kingdom". We start modernizing our military. Spearmen and longbowmen are obsolete. Spearmen will now be reformed into riflemen and more elite rangers. Longbowmen will be reformed into snipers.
