Russia without Stalin.

This is an extension on JFK's STALIN thread.
If Stalin didn't seize power after Lenin's death, or he if he never existed in the first place, or some other random thing:
How would Russia have fared?
EDIT: Also sorry this isn't in Historical Events I had a brain fart.

Mods move this to the wonderful history section.

Well, seeing as how Russia is still a mess with Putin, the FSB are a bunch of crooks, and the democracy that Russia has today is bunk, Stalin wasn't the only problem in Russia.

I believe either Buhkarin or Trotsky would take power, and we won't have the word today, "Stalinist"

Buhkarin would've been cool. Trotsky though, I wonder what he would've done.

Trotsky would not have been exiled and he would rule Russia with his permanent revolution policy, which could have been quite bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_revolution#.27Permanent_revolution.27_according_to_Trotsky

What the fuck?!

You know that thread is locked right?

Yer locked because some dick came and turned the thread about spelling and america.

Yeah.....because it was going wonderfully before that point.

I think Bukharin would have gotten power because he was Lenin's actual successor.

I no right. OK lets forget about the past. i was wrong to bring it up.

Any Lev Kamenev fans on the forums?

I'm pretty sure Trotsky would get into power, even though I'd much prefer to see Bukharin, maybe because I would trust him more than that liability, Trotsky. I definitely do agree with the communist party of Great Britain. They referred to Trotsky as a petty-Bourgeois intellectual, or a opportunist striving for power over the working class. I can tell you he was no representative of the working class, but the Bourgeoisie. Bukharin I can trust, although I didn't agree with most of his theories such as bringing in some components of capitalism for example the new economic policy which Lenin proposed. Bukharin thought it would be a good idea to keep that intact when in contrast Stalin thought to abolish it, and basically go for a self-sufficient economy which he did.

I still generally believe Stalin was the right man to take power at the time. I mean I hate to say it, but he did do some bad things, but overall he did more good than bad. I do know that you did say not to get the good or bad sides of Stalin involved in this debate, but it was unavoidable at this point in the discussion.

Nor Stalinism...

maybe we won't even have josefvstalin the LP'er either

Instead we would have a Trotsky lover, or a Trotskyist LP'er.

nah I think JosefVstalin would have chosen VladimirNLenin or NicolaiIBuhkarin

Out of those two figures I'm pretty sure he would of picked Vladimir Lenin.

probably. who knows maybe he wouldnt even like the USSR anymore, and became a hardcore capitalist. (Spencer)