I wonder what would have happen if the Germans would have kept invaded sooner instead of focusing on helping the Italians in the Yugoslavia campaign, or if the Germans said "fuck Stalingrad, lets get Moscow" Propley the same thing that happen to Napoleon.
In the end, I guess they would've had to commit and lose so many troops to defeat the USSR, the allied invasion would have defeated them.
Damn you Hitler for not taking a hint and looking out for Normandy and then sleeping through the entire invasion.
Me either, I wonder what would have happen if the Germans had the same command that they had in world war 1 leading the world war 2 army.
If the invasion of Normandy wouldn't have taken place, the Germans would have fallen several months later, really. Normandy was (to use a Dutch saying) the droplet that spilled the bucket.
The best bet the Germans had was during 1941 go hey look Russia how much territory we have of your's lets have a peace treaty k. Although compared to the eastern front the western front was nothing, got to love the brutality of the war.
In WW1 the Germans lost on the western front, but won in the east... In WW2 Germany initially won in the west, but eventually lost on all fronts...
But wouldn't the USSR have taken advantage of this? When their mass production kicked in, they could have tanks rolling towards Berlin while the Germans were busy repelling Allied forces.
But during WWI Russia was a really, really unstable country, whereas it wasn't unstable in WWII at all. They didn't have to do much fighting in the east, only in parts of modern day Poland and Belarus. That's not so much rough terrain, and the fighting was all done in the (late) summer.
Weren't there many Russians, Ukrainians, Cossacks who joined the Waffen SS to fight against the USSR?
They first welcomed the Germans as heroes, but when they started slaughtering them, they turned against them as well.
They only lost on west front because they got bogged down, the united states arrived, and the German allies sucked. Had the united states not arrived in the war the Germans would have eventually won or at least had a more favorable terms of peace. (although a 1914 victory would have been better)
From what I know from a documentary, all the US soldiers did is disregard the British commanders and run headlong into German machine gun fire.
USA USA USA USA. Actually the sudden income of troops was a huge moral boost for the allies who lacked that when compared to alot of Germans at the time who where just celebrating there victory over the evil tsar Russians. I often wonder if Germany won in world war 1 in 1914 would the revolution take place in Russia?
Everyone thought that the allies were gonna land near Calais... Edit: A Russian revolution without Lenin?
On both sides, morale was very low. Again, the only thing the US troops did was get killed. I mean, yes, in the end, they'd win because they'd send what, a few thousand people a month or something? I imagine the French and British would go "Oh, hey, US soldiers! Great, now we might hold on a- WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING! OH GOD THE BLOOD! THE HORROR!". On a side note, why are we discussing the First World War in a thread about the Netherlands? I mean, we were neutral that war.
