Official In Regards to Kalalification’s Moderator Status

No, a piece of evidence is that he's been trolling, if not insulting, the Communists in that thread. I'm sure we could find more if we dug enough.

Kali is a mod, he has to be held to a higher standard. Besides, we aren't considering banning him at all. We are considering taking away his mod status. Also, on the subject of a code of conduct, make one. As soon as possible preferably.

Actually no, I don't. We don't have a code of conduct. If we did, then you'd be right. However, there are no demands placed on the modship apart from following the rules and doing the job, both of which I've done. If you want a code of conduct, fine, but don't use this 'higher standard' crap as an argument, because it isn't one.

Why not have a code of conduct?

We just never got around to making it.

Well now make one, and then everyone will go back to loving this nice status quo we have going on.

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Stalin was meant to make a code of conduct for moderators in response to Kali, because Stalin believes moderators should be held to a higher standard. Unfortunately Stalin is busy with University so he didn't get round to it. That being said Kali's argument that "higher standard arguments" are bollocks is itself a load of crap because Stalin has repeatedly implicitly and explicitly said that they should.

I've never once seen a forum before this one that didn't require their moderating staff to hold themselves to a higher standard, whether there was a written one or not.
And every time, the moderating staff had taken the initiative to write one themselves, rather than have it solicited, as it appears it must be here.

What is and what you think should be are two very different things. As it stands there is no code of conduct, and until one is created then you cannot expect me to act in accordance with some ambiguous 'higher standard.'

I shouldn't have to expect you to, you should expect yourself.

That's nonsense. I'll abide by a code of conduct if one is created but I am opposed to the idea of political correctness no matter what form it takes.

Your pleonastic expression is redundant.

As I said in the other thread, I, or we have no problem with anti-socialists. I've got no problem with an anti-socialist being a mod - What we do have a problem with is people who go out of their way to bully others who do not share their opinions. The fact is, and while he may not have been abusing his powers in a physical sense, Kali has been using his position to sway peoples *Personal* opinions against us, as individuals, and that is probably my biggest problem with the guy.

Something interesting- During one of the times things first heated up, Kali got a bunch of reports against him , for hate speech and personal insults - So, he tried to scrap the hate speech, and personal insult rules to cover his own ass.

If you noticed, almost every time it makes a post, it gets reported for hate speech. Yet, funny thing is, he has not made any hate speech.

This Forum is such a drama queen. seriously cut it out. and it is more or less allways the same group of people.
Seriously my junior football team (bunch of 9-10 year olds) has less drama in it.

"You are being infracted for violation of rule I-5, hate speech for the following comments made in the Kim Jong Il thread.

"Anybody who supports genocidial america should hang themselves."
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"Fuck your Fascist American propaganda bullshit, and fuck ANYBODY who believes that blatant bourgeois propaganda Bullshit.
Death Imperialist America. Fuck you mentally deranged capitalist pieces of shit."
(page 2)
These comments specifically violate rule I-5, sections b and c-ii, and the user will be awarded 2 infraction points in accordance with rule IV-1-b-v. Should you wish to appeal the decision, please pm any member of the staff and your appeal will be heard in accordance with the procedures outlines by Rule V

Wait, what is this? What asshole would say something like this? Surely some asshole like Kali or someone.

Oh wait, I know who said this....

Yeah. That was one incident, in which I was having a panic attack. One incident verse tens of, for which he has no excuse for doing.

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Anyway let's not get off-topic in here.

I really don't see the argument in there, first you guys say that giving only one example of Kali insulting the communist is bullshit and doesn't prove anything, now you put one (two) example of Ler insulting Americans and say that is okay. Please stop this bullshit.

Let's also remember that what Ler and his goonies consider hate speech, isn't actually hate speech by any definition of the word. I don't exactly think that's a solid argument.

It would appear everyone is sick of this by now.

But the difference is that Ler didn't fight tooth and nail, bending any rule he could, going through any loophole he could find to prevent it. He didn't even try to appeal the punishment. He took it honorably. Kali has evaded any justice for as long as he could.

I've never once even talked to Ler or Chives or SovietEmpireUSSR about "what hate speech was". Tell me, what do we consider hate speech to be?