At what point was Nazi Germany doomed to defeat?

Try to be realistic, taking into account politics, finance and logistics.

I went for Winter 1941, just because I think that had Hitler done what Guderian suggested, the Soviets wouldn't have been able to inflict much damage or push the Germans back, but I think really it was just one long process of Hitler's own making that he was simply incapable of recognising.
I once read that it was the mindset of the sort of people who become Nazis that led to the invasion of Russia happening when it did; they should have conquered Britain or forced some sort of peace before moving on to the USSR, but that same desire for constant action, victory after victory and always having something to aim for that had got them so far also meant Hitler just went straight for Russia once he knew British defeat was not going to be quick enough for him. It would be kinda sad, if of course they weren't the Nazis. They had the whole world in their grasp and let it slip.

When America joined and Russia started to push them back the Industry of the Axis could not face the USA AND the Russians after that the Germans should have brokered for peace with the Russians or never attacked them until Britain was captured.

The winter of 1941. The Nazi advance into Soviet Union stoped at Moscow and now the Nazis would have to face the industrial might of the US and the Soviet Union and there was no way German Industry could keep up with that. What the Nazis should of done was take out Great Britain before ever trying to invade the Soviet Union.

For me, Hitler had no way to defeat the USSR while he was still helping the Italians in Africa and Greece, wasting men and resources there, the only way he could've won the invasion of Russia from the start was to either get a peace treaty with the UK, not bring the US into the war so soon and either get Turkey on the Axis's side, since that way he could have invaded the Caucasus much sooner and get the so much needed Oil from Baku.

When the Germans failed to capture Moscow and declared war on America in December 1941. Hitler's foreign minister and many German generals were not in favour of a war against the USA.

Kursk was the last time the Germans had any chance of turning the tide of the war against the soviets.

Well I sure hope not.

What do you mean? Hitlers bad planing lost them the war, there for Hitler did defeat Germany.

Damn you Hitler for defeating Germany, but personally Hitler reminds me of an obsessive gambler who gambles everything all the time until loses everything.

*Playing blackjack*
Dealer: 20
Hitler: Hit me.
Dealer: 22
Hitler: damn.

Hitler then bets all his money and yells out "STALINGRAD"

Given the manpower, the vastness of the Soviet Union, and the diehard resistance the Soviets showed, IMO Hitler was doomed the minute he invaded the Soviet Union

Now that I think about it was the Italians defeated the Nazis.

Their fate was sealed when they chose to go to war against two sleeping Giants. The USSR and America.

Thats not true at all, Hitler had perfect opportunities for victory but he chose not to take them. by October 1941 the soviet military was an unorganized mess, not a fighting force in the slightest if hitler would not have delayed he could have taken Moscow easy. Starving leningrad was a poor choice as it took a very long time and wasted resources. Even after the winter of 1941 Hilter still had a chance of victory, it was his loss of 1 million men in both Tunisia and Stalingrad that defeat was truly inevitable, with those men still in his ranks he could have ruled the world.

I agree with you on the fact that Hitler could have taken the Russians, but with America invading his western front at the same time he didn't have a chance. The Nazis were stretched to thing. They had to cover a front in the east and west and a front in Africa. Ultimately that leads to an unattainable victory.

The Americans didnt invade mainlan europe untill 1943 and again in 1944 Hitler could have easily thrown the Allies back into the sea with those 500,000 men defending sicily . If he would have won in Stalingrad he could have held the Allies off forever without the Soviets still at their throats. The soviets won WW2 the allies just sped up the process.

Hitler was doomed to failure the moment he chose to tangle with the Russians. Germany couln't not have dealt with the vast manpower and sheer size of the Soviets. What we Americans ended up doing was preventing the Russians from dominating a larger part of Europe in the post war period,

I'm inclined to say that it was from the failure to capture Moscow. Germany completely overwhelmed the Russians during Operation Barbarossa and I reckon that Stalin would have capitulated if the German offensive hadn't slowed down. If the Germans had captured Moscow I reckon that the Russians would have admitted defeat. I'm not sure whether or not to say that Stalingrad was the turning point as that's what it's traditionally known as.