Qualities of Efficient Leaders and Who Do You Think Was an Efficient Leader

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  1. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    What are a few qualities you guys think an efficient leader should have. I think he should be intelligent, a good planner, and a great speaker. Also, who do you guys think were efficient leaders? Remember, an efficient leader does not have to be a good leader. :p
    Mine are...

    Josef V Stalin
    Octavian Augustus
    Julius Caesar
  2. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Hitler was a good speaker and from alot of view points quite intelligent (if not insane) does that make him a good leader to you?

    For me the best of leader is one who is willing to do whatever is willing to win, he would cut of his own arm for his people and is of course the champion of the people, leading them from slavery to victory and then eventually getting captured and nailed to the cross by the Romans.
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    So by that, I remember there was one general in the Sengoku Jidai era who cut his own head off when charging the enemy with his cavalry.
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    That is the most badass thing I have ever heard.
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    It's true, I don't remember his name though.

    Also 2 generals that I find very efficient were Napoleon off course and Erwin Rommel.
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    Napoleon was the very definition of badass and awesome.
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    You could make an argument that Hitler was an efficient leader.
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    A great military leader, and indeed a great leader of nations, would have to have strong economic and political ability, with the backing of strong military command a few spring to mind.

    - Caesar Augustus (Gaius Octavian Caesar)
    - Julius Caesar
    - Claudius (even though he wasn't strong militarily, he was one of Romes' most competent emperors)
    - Napoleon
    - Genghis Khan
    - Constantine (even though half his reign he was a userper)
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    A great political leader needs to listen to his/her people and have high skills in politics,economics,organisation

    Good speaking is not really needed in my opinion.
    Some awesome leaders:Churchill,FDR,Fidel Castro,Imre Nagy
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    Efficiency people, not overall good traits.
    And on that note, Pope John Paul the II was highly efficient. A great Pope.
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    Hes one of the few popes I actually like.
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    Fidel Castro
    -For some reason his regime never collapsed despite the fact the United States a superpower that's only a short distance across the sea wanted him gone

    Genghis Khan
    -He united tribes that hated each other and nearly conquered the world

    Napoleon Bonepart
    -I love this guy for many reasons but my favorite one is because he was a lowborn who started as a corporal and ended up being the Emperor of Europe
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    - Adolf Hitler was the most efficient bitch ever.
    - Otto von Bismarck was great in uniting shit, but I'm not sure if he was very efficient with his crazy fetish for nobility and stuff.
    - Joseph Stalin was a pretty efficient and effective leader.
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    My vote would be towards Orlok Tsubodai, the mastermind behind the golden horde's mighty western trek. He managed to surround and destroy nearly every christian army in his path. The only thing that saved europe was the death of Genghis, in which scenario all lords and princes were required by law to pull back to the capital at Karakorum to decide the new khan. Tsubodai never went back west.
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    - Genghis Khan. He united the Mongol tribes and lead them out of the steppe lands to destroy the vast civilizations of Asia. Very efficient warlord.

    - Tamerlane. He claimed to be a descent of Genghis Khan. Not as successful and efficient as his claimed ancestor, but still a badass warlord. Quite unfortunately that his empire pretty much collapsed after his death like that of Alexander the Great and Atilla the Hun.

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    Damnit kaiser Wilhelm II! Why did you have to fire him?
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    A just ruler who listens to his subjects but enforces law with a harsh hand.
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    Wait so while charging he cut off his own head? How is that freaking possible?
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    Qualities of an Efficient Leader
    -Adolf Hitler: While it is debatable Hitler was an efficient leader, he possessed the traits of one. His speaking ability is one of the best in history. The way he was able to turn an entire country against one people is sick yet incredibly efficient.

    -Timur: Timur's most defining quality was his war propaganda. The way he organized corrupting the minds of his enemies is amazing. It allowed Timur to become widely feared, and it kept order in his empire. His ability to keep so many conquered people under control is incredibly efficient.

    -Napoleon Bonaparte: Napoleon is another example of a ruler who was able to efficiently keep his empire under control(except Spain but that is another story). Napoleon knew how to amplify his victories to the point in which his people believed they would never loose. He did this by bringing a lot of treasures back to the homeland. This along with splendid monuments such as the Arch De Triumph gave the French People the feeling that they would never loose. This way of getting the populous under control is an efficient trait in a leader.

    -Rick Perry: Ha, okay hang in here. My inner Perry fanboy is kicking in. Governor Perry's greatest efficient trait as a leader is retail politics. Say what you will about the man, but he knows how to get down on the poorest of people's level and speak to them from the heart. He is a master at acting like a regular Joe. It is probably he is the current longest serving US Governor. Sadly, retail politics gets you only so far on the national stage. Regardless, his ability get down on anyone's level is an efficient trait in a leader.

    -JFK/RFK: These great men fall into the same category. JFK and RFK both ran for the presidency of the United States. JFK succeeded and RFK was assassinated during his campaign. JFK was also assassinated during his reign. These two men faced a hard task, running the US in the height of the Cold War. JFK first used the spread of Communism as a way to get the people in his side. I should also note that he tried to stop the spread of Communism not just to get the people on his side, but it was in the US's best interests. After that failed with the Bay of Pigs Invasion Kennedy used his superb speaking ability to keep the public calm in the wake of Soviet antics such as the Cuban Missile Crisis. RFK is in the same boat as his brother. The fact he did as well as he did in the election after entering so late is baffling. Being a Kennedy and a big competitor dropping out helped, but overall he shared hid brother's great speaking ability. The Kennedy's abilities to keep an entire nation from going insane with the Soviet Union just a stones throw from Florida were very efficient and deserve to be noted.

    -Sitting Bull: Most know Sitting Bull as the American Indian Commander who beat General Custer at the Battle of Little Big Horn. Before Sitting Bull could even think about achieving such a victory, he needed people to repel the White Men. He had to unify tons of Native Americans to fight for his cause. His ability to rally so many people against a superior foe, and then win deserves to be noted as an efficient leadership trait.

    -Otto Von Bismarck: I am only mentioning him because I mentioned Sitting Bull. Bismarck unified all the German States together to form somewhat of what Germany is today. His skills as a Diplomat and a "Uniter" are great leadership traits to have if you seek to be an efficient leader. And just FYI Genghis Khan falls into the same category as Bismarck except, you know, Mongols instead of Germans.

    That is it for now. I might do more later.

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