Relations between Fascism-Keynesianism-Socialism

Discussion in 'The Political/Current Events Coffee House' started by crocve, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. Kalalification Guest

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    If people elect a communist it's their fuck up.
  2. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    Be kind of interesting to how it would play out, and if the people would be willing to do it again or if they would go "CAPITALISM FTW" in about six months to a year.
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    Its so hard, while i like the style of Fascism I can't comply with racists and lunatics, I also know that its a effective government form, so i guess I will have to stay on the populist/Social democratic fence, and just wait it out.
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    Isn't that basically the story of the last thirty years? In which case I suspect any attempt at anything even slightly left will lead to a massive pooh-poohing by the markets, causing it to inevitably fail and 'the people' to shout "CAPITALISM FTW" again as you say. And even if they don't shout it, we must recognise 'practical problems' and market 'realities'. Sorry, I think i'm just ranting, but y'all get my drift. Hopefully.
    Anti-racist Fascism ftw! Fascists of the world unite against racism! Too long have those ignorant bastards ruined our otherwise perfect name! lol
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    Fascism without Racism is Populism i think.
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    Fascism has nothing to do with racism. Fascism without racism is still just fascism. Racism is only inherently a part of National Socialism.
  7. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    No....

    Fascism isn't racist, it's stateist. Nazism is Fascism + racism. Ergo Fascism without racism isn't populism at all, it's just regular fascism.

    Edit: damn Jew ninja's
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    And that's pedro3131 + racism. lol
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    oh okay then, i am not too experienced on government forms.
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    Racism doesn't have any connections with fascism one bit. Just that fascism is solely build on the premises of an all powerful entity called the state. National Socialism also fits that category, but with this different ethnic form of fascism it includes racism.

    I could go deep into the philosophy of fascism if you want me too, or I could provide you with further information or sources on fascism. I would suggest you picking up this book called 'The Doctrine of Fascism' by Giovanni Gentile. Seriously though you get a lot of the insight on what fascism is all about in this book, and if I remember correctly I didn't remember seeing anything mentioned about racism.

    Giovanni Gentile was a pretty interesting man to say at least, although he was a Neo-Hegelian idealist philosopher. Idealism is something I don't agree with other then the fact that I stand more on the materialistic works of Marx and other famous philosophers that covered their views in a materialistic vision, not that in a idealistic approach.

    Enough of me rambling on about random stuff. Time I give you a link to the wiki page of the 'The Doctrine of Fascism'. Should be a little preview on what to expect from this book. If you really do want to know more about fascism, then I seriously recommend you obtain this book immediately. You won't be disappointed.

    Also, why do I know so much about fascism is because I used to be fascist or even some would say national socialist.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctrine_of_Fascism
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    Although I never liked reading Philosophical literature i guess i can see if my local library has something like that.
    I'm glad Racism isn't associated with Fascism because racism is something that I absolutely detest, especially reverse racism.
  12. SovietEmpireUSSR Well-Known Member

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    Here's some other material on fascism that isn't in a philosophical perspective.

    'The Anatomy of Fascism' by Robert O. Paxton

    'A History of Fascism, 1914-1945' by Stanley G. Payne

    I'm not sure if this books would be available in your local library, but it is worth checking out.
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    PM me for the e-book version and a PC e-reader.
  14. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    If you don't feel like going that in depth you can always pick up a textbook on political ideologies. I'm inclined to plug the professor that I work's with book, and I do think it offers a pretty concise picture of things, and it points you in the direction of what to further study.

    http://www.amazon.com/Political-Ideologies-Democratic-Ideal-8th/dp/0205779964/ref=pd_sim_b_1

    Either a school or local library would have it, or you could pick up an older edition for really cheep. The newer versions add in a bit, but it's not like the fundamental philosophical underpinnings of an ideology have changed
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