Anthropogenic Global Warming - Does More Need To Be Done?

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  1. Kalalification Guest

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    lolwut? Hydrogen powered cars are pretty much the worst emissions offenders in existence, and virtually every other fuel is safer and more efficient.
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    Again, nuclear power can help sustain power levels while other technologies can be developed.

    There are indeed quite a few problems with both making and (safely) storing hydrogen, but the power output is quite a bit. If I recall correctly, the methods for making hydrogen right now are gassing and electrolyse, which either produces a lot of emission, or ends up costing almost more energy than you get out of it, making it not very efficient. Not to mention the energy needed to efficiently store it, as it needs to be compressed in high-pressure tanks. All are problems which need solving before it could be used efficiently.

    However, I don't know how fast bio diesel can be produced, and right now, the action radius of electric cars is terrible, not to mention it takes at least a day to recharge them, not to mention making those cars uses rare metals that are shipped all over the world, which really doesn't help emission either. I don't know how much oil is left and how long it can still be used to power cars, but hopefully long enough for cleaner and more efficient sources to be developed.
  3. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    That is one thing I found weird they closed them down because their dangerous but only if you suffer massive earthquakes and tsunamis. Seriously did no one think that through? Nuclear Fusion is what we should be trying to achieve as it has an almost infinite supply fuel and is perfectly clean. Nuclear fission what we have now can last us for 1000 years before running out of fuel.
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  4. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    I think they wanted to avoid the risk, as Germany has quite a high population density, and is smack in the middle of Europe. A large nuclear disaster there would be the biggest catastrophe in human history. Still, if anything the disaster in Japan proved modern nuclear facilities can take just about anything and shut themselves down safely, as only the outdated WWII-era ones had problems.
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    How the last time I checked Germany didn't have earthquakes or really anything that could damage it's plants.
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  6. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    BREAKING NEWS! GERMANY HAS JUST HAD A 9.0 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE!
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    Yep, pretty much. I mean, if things go wrong, Europe's fucked, but then again, it's not going to go wrong.
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    In reaction to Working Group 1's report in the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report, this happened:
    (Wikipedia. Obv.)
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    Noam Chomsky in an article on American Decline:
    Very scary first paragraph.
  11. PopePnwer Well-Known Member

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    Not much more is going to be done until people figure out that they have do something about climate change. Politicians aren't going to do something unless there is public support for it (or if it benefits them). The thing is I think by the time people figure out that its a serious problem it may just be too late.
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    Well there is another reason to support going more eco-friendly. I was reading TIME magazine and it said a new study said being exposed to even areas that are considered "moderate" air quality for a short period of time can greatly increase your risk for a stroke/heart attack. So if not for the environment, we need to at least improve the air quality for our own health.
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    That is important and all but Global warming is a threat to our existence as a species is action isn't taken.
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    I know but I am just saying for the people who dont believe in global warming, this is a reason they should still support making our air cleaner and lowering pollution levels.
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    But pollution and clean air have little to do with global warming, the main offender is CO2 which isn't deadly to humans, so supporting anti-pollution acts gets us no where in terms of stopping global warming.
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    Stopping pollution helps stop global warming bro.
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    There is more than one type of pollution, stopping some of them does not stop global warming.
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    But cleaning the air helps.
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    Depends on what your cleaning. But in general cleaning the air is only a good thing.
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    Life has survived just fine when it was significantly hotter on Earth than it is now, heck, I don't think there were polar caps when the dinosaurs were around (then again, that might've been because of Pangaea's location, and it has survived when it was significantly colder. In both cases, the dominant species didn't have any technology we posses right now.

    While it is quite the problem, I seriously doubt Global Warming and its effects will be able to wipe out humanity.

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