So apparently Western Europe is Completely Socialist...

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  1. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    It's to represent that the US is becoming Latin Americanized and thus dark skinned.
  2. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Where in this thread did you find the evidence to take that conclusion?

    In any case, I DO have a sense of humor.

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  3. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    I'm not sure. You know more about Dutch politics than I do, but I can't remember the last time we even had a socialist government (except CDA-CU-PvdA, I wouldn't count that as socialist).
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    As far as I know, social healthcare and state pensions were introduced by social democrats after WW2. Those who were initially against that later decided after they removed the social democrats from power to keep it payable and available instead of abolishing it. At least that was the case in Britain and the Netherlands.

    And I Balkenende's fourth cabinet (CDA-CU-PvdA) was probably the most left-wing Dutch cabinet since that of Den Uyl in the 1970's. Purple (PvdA-VVD-D66) in the second half of the 1990's and early 2000's was rather neoliberal in my opinion.
  5. Bart (Moderator) NKVD Channel Maintainer

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    Ah, well. By the way, do you think the current government will survive for long? CDA is already moving more to the left, VVD is having problems within their own party, and PVV is suffering a loss of voting. They are already starting to go more for the opposition.
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    HA lol.
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    As usual, I suspect fuck all will change. Heck, even when the PVV got the majority of the votes, not too much happened. I still find it funny people keep freaking out over them, even though it's quite clear their extreme points (which aren't even all their points) will never pass the First Chamber, let alone the queen. I mean, all this attention is exactly what they wanted, and people are giving it to them on a fucking plate.
    But it'll be as it always is: everyone will agree with each other and do absolutely nothing except the Animal Party will bitch and moan about the fucking mouse traps that are used in the governmental buildings. For that is how Dutch politics work these days.
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    Depends on whether or not those problems within the coalition are getting more severe over course of the following years. The cabinet holding out until the elections in May 2015 doesn't not sound like a likely scenario, but who knows... Van Agt's first cabinet had a very small majority in parliament (77 of the 150 seats), his own party (CDA) had even had dissidents, and yet they able to survive for four years.
    I don't think the VVD has many problems within their own party. The party is doing well in the polls (remaining pretty stable at 30 or even more seats) and within the party there's very much support for the cabinet. No one doubts about Rutte's position. However, in recent days former party leader Nijpels and former VROM minister Winsemius began to worry about the party. Nijpels because the party is according to him shifting too much in the direction of the PVV. Winsemius because it's too silent within the party and too little discussion.
    And that's why Geert Wilders is now beginning to attack the SP.
    That doesn't really sound like a bad thing to me, because on one occasion the PVV had the balls to vote in favour of a motion against the so called "weigerambtenaar" while VVD (although they are firmly against "weigerambtenaren") voted against that motion because they had made some "deals" with the SGP.
  9. MayorEmanuel Do not weep, for salvation is coming.

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    I thought it was the EU.
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    I meant the girl that is wearing a shirt with the British flag in the corner.
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    Those 4 people in the SATW comic are: Australia, Canada, King Europe, and USA
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    Tell your teacher this. Infact bring your laptop and show him this comment. Seriously.

    Whenever you see a problem with your country or some other country compair it to the world superpower known as Lithuania.

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