With Hu on the way out, will China finally own up to being dicks?

Xi Jinping, Chinese VP and soon-to-be CCP leader, visits the US this week. He's set to replace Hu Jintao, current Chinese president, in 2013, and will be taking over party leadership sometime this year. As some of you might know, Hu has been a regular douche to the US and the West in general over the issues of currency manipulation and intellectual property disputes, and has been ramping up the Chinese military presence in the Pacific.

Xi appears to be quite different, and much more comfortable and cooperative with the US. His meeting with Obama seems to have been mostly about trade policy, and he was noted to be much less of a standoffish prick than his boss. The biggest concerns he raised at the meeting were about the US's shifting of forces around the Pacific, in particular about the current Futenma relocation plans and the construction of a new military base in Australia.

Now, obviously, we can't get our hopes up too much with Xi, but I think we will be seeing a major improvement in Chinese accountability and perhaps an end to the proto-trade war that China has been conducting against the rest of the world. His foreign policy agenda seems considerably less nationalistic than Hu's, and he's much more amiable towards America, so at the least we will see a less belligerent China.

Human rights issues don't seem to be a priority of his, however, so it's doubtful we'll see any meaningful changes on that front. But it's heartening to see that there are at least some Chinese leaders who don't want to keep their country's reputation of "uncooperative douche" intact.

Eww, China.

On a serious note, I'll only like him if he gives us Hong Kong.

On the actual serious note, he seems to be much better then his boss from what I've heard, but then again, he could turn into a right cunt when he takes power.

Hopefully they finally take a stance against human rights abuse since there is a free trade agreement with Canada if they do. Maybe we can see Hong Kong become it's own separate country.

Maybe we can see Hong Kong back under the crown.

/sarcasm

Xi, Appears to be alot more negotiable then the current Chinese president Hu, that being said he is still going to do the occasional very anti-western though every now and again, Its China what did you expect? Xi past is very interesting as his father suffered greatly during the cultural revolution, and he did manual labor for the state (perhaps he will be sympathetic to the current use of labor in China, you know rights he might do those)

He also seems like someone is not willing to take risks, although he is a very pragmatic personality. People who have interviewed him have praised him very highly, which is something Hu could never say, also he is apparently supposed to approve human rights in China.

Xi is going to be alot more collaborative with the untied states, however he will still show his nationalistic colors and do something to piss us of every couple of months or so. It will be curious on what he does with the current state media in the country. But he is very pro-american (well when compared to Hu) to be honest this will be a great chance for the united states to increase ties with China.

Though in terms of Owning up to being dicks, Kali get real. He is the leader of the people's republic of china all in all he will just be better (to the west) then Hu. Though the question I have is not that he will improve US/Chinese relations but what will he do with Russia or India?

We have to wait and see, but all in all he might be a very good change for all.

Some background to the guy:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17022763

It should be noted that he's attacked the West one one known occasion, so he can be a real prick when he wants to be. The other villagers who he worked with in the Mao era say he worked hard and was nice to the other villagers, so he seems to be more populist (assuming he hasn't changed much over this time period). He might be a better president than Hu, but it's too early to know that.

China being a douche? How about the US?
China has every right to expand its military.
China has every right to take its time adjusting its currency, as a quick transition like the West wants could collapse the Chinese economy.

I personally doubt that this will change much. He is still a Party member and the son of one of the original CPC members with Mao to boot.

Ha Ha HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Not a chance.
Short of major military action, Hong Kong has even less chance of breaking away than Tibet of being released.
Damn Western Imperialists.

IMO the West is too picky, too hasty.
Though the human rights have not changed quickly, the Chinese have made great changes overall.
Though the Chinese still lay claim to the island of Taiwan, they are not moving to take it by force anymore. Not openly anyways. They have openned both cultural and economic exchange with Taiwan.
Though China still has trade deficit problems, they are moving to solve them, however slowly, however reluctently.

Keep in mind that China is not obligated to be friendly with anyone or take anyone's side but their own.
They will always seek to be the 'master of their own house', not a damned orbit of the US or any other nation.
Remember that, while the Chinese people may disagree on anything or everything with the governement, they will ALWAYS 'prefer their own, bad government, over the good government of an alien power' and will always support China being its own. They will never stand for the West pushing China to do anything. All others are forever foreigners in their eyes.

I've said it once, I'll say it again: China looks after China. They are their only concern. All others may simply mutually benefit.

China has no right to manipulate it's currency all it does is damage any country it does business with. China needs to improve it's human rights to levels where people dying isn't common place. China also needs to release all political prisoners. Hong Kong deserves to be free and wants to be free, it has the economy and government to do it. Hong Kong is far more advanced than the mainland and to mention they also hate mainlanders.

LOL no. The Brits took Hong Kong after the opium war, and that left a hateful mark for the Chinese to the British.

Buisness ethics.

****! Dying is a sign of human rights violations now? Under that defintiion, all countries are in violation! Even the ones where people only die of old age!

Define 'political prisioners'.
If a Western reporter found a rapist in a Chinese jail, they would probably call him the next Dali Lama.
I'm not saying that there aren't any, I'm saying that:
A. It is overblown.
B. That the West has its own political prisoners, but they don't call them that. They call them 'suspected terrorists' and hold them in places like Guantanimo.
Are there a lot more than in the West? I don't know. Are there too many since one is one too many? Yes.

That is ****. Being the descendent of not one, but two Hong Kong residents, I have NEVER IN MY LIFE heard of any wide-spread sentiment for breaking away. Autonomy, yes, but not breaking away.
And saying 'Oh, they are more advanced, so they should break away' is like saying 'Hey, look! Quebec is more advanced than the rest of those **** mounties! They should break away!' Its a **** argument. Its like saying that all the Chinese are barbarians and Hong Kong is some island of peace and harmony.

What in the world do you think that I am talking about?
They just got it back, so why would they let it go?

Why in the world must you Westerners always be so Imperialistic?

No need to censor yourself, man. Let a fuck or two come out.

No doubt.

Matter of principle.

But I shall take your advice under consideration.
Thank you.

Uhh... China. The world's leading death exporter, I think I'll leave this cup of tea with you lads and go drink myself into a coma and awake in a dustbin some time later to forget the giant stain that is Chinese hypocrisy out any pensive thoughts.

The CCP are all bad eggs in my book, can't completely trust them.

Their moldy old farts who like blow-jobs and money... of course their bad eggs

That doesn't change anything, what they are doing is illegal.

No, workers dying is common place in China. Oh someone died from the dangerous things the company does, just carry on with business. In China workers have very little rights they need more.

No they have entire networks of political of prisons that are not only prisons but factories. I'm talking about people like Falun Gong followers.

They are more advanced, they have human rights, workers rights, and a developed economy unlike China. All the stuff I hear from Hong Kong usually refers to mainlanders as parasites.

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/chinas-looming-pension-crisis

How about you re-read my post.

"On a serious note, I'll only like him if he gives us Hong Kong.

On the actual serious note, he seems to be much better then his boss from what I've heard, but then again, he could turn into a right cunt when he takes power."

See how a little more reading can prevent you from looking like a fool?

My prediction is that China will be the 2nd largest economy in the world, and then by the time they reach the size of say the EU, they'll start to pudder out. Then go into something like Japan with a lost decade or two, and then find themselves growing at about the same rate as America.

In short, a Japan with hundreds of millions more people.