On a scale of 1 to 10, how mad bro are you? Because that seems like it's at least a 6, couldn't even keep it in the right thread. You aught to be ashamed for taking us off topic.
if its all the races of ME vs. the Imperium then i think ME would win. Human vs. human, Imperium hands down. their sheer number of indoctrinated soldiers would overwhelm the Alliance.
That seems to apply in some part to at least three people in this thread. Have you noticed that Imperial? Have you sensed a pattern? I, and I'm sure many people here, love discussions of this nature but are driven away by you. I bear no resentment toward you at all, you've shown yourself to be at least a decent person otherwise. But when you start arguing, I'm finished. I'm not interested in having a discussion against a brick wall. Note how I'm not the first person to use that term to describe you in the context of a discussion. I was overly harsh and a tad vindictive with that other response. I'm sorry. However, it was elicited by your actions, despite me normally being quite a reserved person. Here's an honest suggestion. If you like discussions here, then please be rational, acknowledge and at least consider opposition points, and allow some leeway with your own. This isn't personal, this isn't a competition, this isn't a war. I don't know why you seem to treat it like one. If you're going to attack people the way you do, and completely stone wall when we show the slightest hint of having an issue, then before long you're probably going to have to look elsewhere. It ends up leaving other people with nowhere to go. That was part advice, and part request. I don't have a way of forcing you to comply, and have absolutely no intention to. You go and do what you will.
Fine, but I will "sitck to my guns" and still regard things that are canon to be canon, even if you refuse to accept it. That people cannot come up with any kind of actual, sustainable argument in the favor of their side is not my fault. If they have a side and choose it, they have to be prepared and able to defend it. That is what debating is. I apologize for any offense that I caused, but I just found your argument... foolish, if you will. Attacking canon is routine for debates for this, but outright denying official canon is something else. Even I have to accept canon that I don't like, such as when Bethesda's choice to update the status of the Midwestern BOS changed my position in the MUN-like Fallout game that was set up. You have to be able to accept the new canon realities and find new approaches with your side to counter them or to minimize the damage potencial. Like I said before, it is no different than debating anything else. Sadly, that assertion can still be applied here. Therefore, it is in the right place and right at home in this thread. I really fail to see how having one race versus one race is any different than the situation proposed. I would assert that the IOM could take down the ME universe single-handedly and still maintain the fight against the other Warhammer 40K races at the same time. Nothing in the ME universe comes close to the Warhammer 40K universe. Even the Imperium, who has such slow tech, would win. The reason for this is that all the races of the ME universe rely on the Mass Relay networks while the IOM have the ability to go anywhere they want. All they would have to do is start destroying the Relays and the ME universe races would find themselves practically trapped at their worlds.
Mass Relay technology is more usable than Warp Travel apparently. I would say the Imperium would maintain the Relay network as it is too valuable to destroy.
i think they'd try to destroy it because it'd be considered heresy or something stupid. you know them religious zealots, always trying to stop progress
I wouldn't know. Edit: If the Imperium really did destroy the Mass Relay network then they would either have to use Sub-Light travel or Warp travel and that takes a long time. By then the Mass Effect races would have time to repair the Relays.
The Mass Relays are Zeno tech and used by heretics. The Imperium would, without a doubt, destroy them. Even thought Mass Relays are faster, they are based on a very weak transit strategy during a war. The Imperium might take the idea under consideration, but they would likely destroy the Mass Relays themselves. And the idea is less: Swift travel> Warp Travel and more, Warp Travel>enemies being able to move. As I pointed out before, the Mass Relays are the only primary mode of transportation and travel for the ME universe. As dangerous as the Warp is, it is still a tactically sound approach to destroy the Mass Relays rather than try to use them. Also, remember that the ME races have had the time to assimilate the technology of the Mass Relays and find out how to use them. It could take potencially years for the IOM to do the same AND standardize it to the point that the Relays are acutally useful. Remember that the ME races don't know how to build the Mass Relays, cannot travel FTL without them, and we are talking about the total destruction of the Relays, not just damaging them.
Not true. They sill have standard FTL drives but it would take the standard years or decades to travel to each star cluster. FTL is also fast enough to get you between each Star system in a matter of hours. The Mass Relays simply shortern journeys across the Galaxy to a matter of hours and days.
So, their weapons are inferior, they are in lesser number, and they have slower mobility than the Imperium. Yeah. I don't see them winning this one.
Well the Reapers can't be discounted. They are a formidable race and unlike the organic races will be a much tougher fight.
Yeah, but I am waiting on someone on the ME side to quantify and qualify them. I still think that IOM will win, either way.
Well, I think that the Imperium would wreck any sort of ground resistance from indoctrinated abominations and stuff like that. However, the reaper's themselves seem to be a little tougher. I think it comes down to "can the reaper's harm the imperium cruisers?". The answer is probably no, the only reaper weapon (as least so far as the Mass Effect wiki will tell me) is something that shoots molten metal, really fast.
Well their numbers are massive and Imperium fleets are small compared to them. Also they are nothing if not methodical. They are patient if not calculating. Outright fights are not to be done until all other options are exhausted. Edit: What's funny is we're only talking about the Imperium. The Mass Effect universe won't stand a chance against the whole 40k universe.
Yeah just looked it up. Plus there are other forums that asked the same thing. I agree that Mass Effect isn't as militant as this universe. Goku vs Rocky essentially. Edit: Mass Effect for the most part is heavily limited sadly. It can offer no great comparison to any universe. Even my vaunted Reapers rely on suppressing advanced organic races.
