My Views on Marijuana

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  1. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    So before you guys go all apeshit on what I'm about to say, let me say this. I AM ALL FOR THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA. Now that I got that off of my chest, let me proceed to say what I want to say.

    First off, as much as I despise General Mosh's idea about what to do about drugs, I can completely understand where he is coming from on this issue. He is basically saying " I can't save everybody but I damn well am gonna try." I want to say that I can't help everybody, and I most certainly am not gonna try. I think we should legalize marijuana, (and for all I care, any drug). However, I still do not think anybody could give me a single good reason for why they smoke marijuana or any drug for that matter, to begin with.

    Sometimes, I feel pity for cigarette smokers, because I know there are cigarette smokers out there who really wanna quit, but are having an extremely difficult time doing so, because they are addicted. However, since you marijuana smokers have gone out of your way to try to convince everybody that marijuana is not an addiction, I find it even more despicable that people even smoke it.

    No matter what you tell me, there is nothing you can say or do to convince me that marijuana does not do harm to your body. I don't care if it does less harm than cigarettes, the point is it still does harm. There is nothing anybody can say to me that justifies why they smoke marijuana, just as there is nothing somebody can say to me that justifies why they enjoy getting drunk every week.

    Why would anybody want to do anything that you know will harm your body in some way shape or form, just to feel good, or feel cool. Why would you want to shorten your life a couple years, just so you can feel high every now and again, or get so drunk you can barely stand? There are so many other ways you can feel good and "be cool", that does not shorten your life on this Earth. I don't know about you guys, but I want to live as long as I possibly can.

    That being said, I do have a proposition for how to lower the drug usage while still keeping drugs legalized. I think informing the kids from a very young age about the dangers and harm drugs can do to your body. And I am not talking about what we do now, which is basically saying, "Drugs are bad, M'kay." I think we should have whole classes dedicated to informing kids about why drugs are bad for you, from as early as 4th grade onwards, so when they are old enough to be able to get these drugs, they already know about how bad it is for them, instead of educating them in 8th and 9th grade, where many of them are already doing drugs like marijuana.

    However, if they still decide to do harm to their body and smoke weed, or cigarettes, or get drunk every week, then I don't think we should try and stop them. I think the most we should do is give them every reason under the sun why they shouldn't do drugs, and then let them make their own decision. I think this is a very effective way of lowering the amount of smokers, not only in the US, but across the globe.
  2. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Well, this may be one of the first convincing posts on Marijuana legalization I have ever seen. I still disagree, but I could live with it.
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  3. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    I am for the legalization of Marijuana so long as its the state voting on it. If the federal government is making it mandatory that all states make it legal then no. I believe the same for Gay Marriage. That's just my two cents.
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    To me marijuana harms the body, so it shouldn't be legalized. For all of you about to bluster on about the legality of alcohol and cigarettes: 1) alcohol is a major part of social culture. 2) cigarettes were the US' first cash crop.
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    i am for legalizing marijuana. As long it's illegal to smoke in public.
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    also hemp
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    Sarcasm, or one of the most moronic reasons against legalisation?
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    It's better to legalize and start regulating marijuana like tobacco and alcohol.
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    i agree
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    While the point in itself is stupid, I would like to point out that what is and isn't a part of your culture might not be the same for others. Most Americans don't smoke, so that's apparently not a part of "your culture" either. That must mean(according to your logic) that it should be banned, whether or not tobacco was your first cash crop...

    Which must mean you've only read one side of the story, because I've definately seen some good arguments against Marijuana and other drugs when I read about the issue.
    I think you're throwing the word despicable(Definition: deserving hatred and contempt) a little too much. What I do with my own body is my own choice, and this particular activity(not very often) is not that harmful to me. See below for more

    I never said that. Eating a burger is also harmful to you, but you're going to do it anyway. Playing a computergame 4 hours is unhealthy, but we're(or at least me) doing it anyway. The point is that people don't always do what's good for them, but what they percieve as the best option, even considering the consequenses, at that moment. Smoking marijuana regularly will cause some harm,(not much) but for the average smoker, the damage will be miniscule, and they are likely to die of something else entirely that is in no way connected to their smoking.

    Even if I lived to be a 110, I would still find rather have some fun and die at 100. I don't want my life to be bland and boring and to avoid every possible harmful thing(and that's pretty much 3/4 of all food) just to live a couple of years younger. Hell I've heard of many people that were ready to die, and probably wished they had done something more exciting in their life while they still had the chance.
    I feel that my life quality is more important than my life span.
    A score for me would be:
    life span*life quality=How happy I am with the way my life went.(low is bad, high is good)

    I agree, children should be informed about drugs and the consequences they have on you both healthwise and mentally.
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    Cool story bro
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    It's still harmful, and the fact that acording to you, you dont get addicted, means that you cans top anytime you want, but you dont. At least there are cig smokers who want to stop but cant stop.


    Eating a burger can be easily offset by a thing we call exercise.


    Lets say the average lifespan is 77. Let's say you smoke a lot and drink a lot, you have just probably cut your lifespan down by 7-8 years. Don't you wanna see your grandchildren grow up to be adults? Why would you ever want to shorten your only time being on this planet?

    At least we agree on something.
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    You can actually stop if you're addicted to something. My dad used to be a big smoker and had smoked since he was 13-15, but he stopped and have never smoked again.
    I'm talking about food in general. Just like a couple of burgers now and then won't hurt you(a lot) a couple of blunts won't hurt you a lot.
    Children born today(in Denmark) are expected to live more than a hundred years.
    I don't. I drink/smoke in the weekends, and not even every weekend. Like most other teenagers/young people who drink and smoke. My schedule wouldn't allow that either(too many assignments) with the high level on the higher education I'm looking at the moment.
    I would cut my life a couple of years if my life quality would significantly increase from it(I've already said this twice) I'm not even sure I wan't kids or if I'm suited to raise a kid.
    But like I said it won't be that bad. I'll probably die of something else before my raging alcohol and drug use can claim the kill(a little bit of sarcasm there...)

    We agree on a lot, but it's more fun and inlightening to discuss something you disagree about ;)

    Edit:
    Me?
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  14. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    I have a few grandparents who were heavy smokers at one point. Two of them are currently living out their last few years with a machine that helps them breathe. Do you really want to live the last few years of your life living off a machine?
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    Why the fuck are you saying this?! LOOK AT MY PREVIOUS POSTS!! I already said I'm not a heavy smoker(no where near in fact) and I only smoke mabye twice or three times a month. Your grandparents smoked cigs and they probably smoked 20 or more a day. SPOT THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?!
    I'm getting a bit frustrated by your obvious lack of reading skills, or the fact that you just don't read my posts.
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    i did an experiment on nocotine adiction once.
    its not that hard to quit, but i started again 7 months later because i missed it.
    it was snus i was using wich is about 90% safer than cigs.
    the reason i did the experiment was i was going to start using snus anyway.
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    I'd write out my views as well, but since I'm fucking tired, and have to get up early in the morning, for now I'll state I agree with what Warburg said.
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    I don't know which is more annoying. You, or your opposite.
  19. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Yet you still went back to it. What does that say about the "nonexistent" addictive qualities of weed?
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    i went back to snus after 7 months, it takes less time than that to kick the habit.
    the reason i went back was because i enjoyed it just like i enjoy cigars.

    and further more
    i know alot of people who tried pot none of them need to smoke pot on a regular basis to feed thair addiction.
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