I have. I was just seeing what the religous authority thinks and what he thinks is right. I honestly hope there isn't but I have the feeling there is. For all of you atheists: God doesn't send you to hell, you CHOOSE to go there. That is what I believe.
For what? Stating my opinion that there is no hell, there is no evidence for hell and anyone who actually believes in a afterlife is kuku? I gave you evidence for how obviously staged the whole christianity thing is, you didnt even respond besides your "its my believe" thing. Fine. You believe it, and you are free to say so. And I am fucking free to say that its stupid! @ General of Carthage Since God makes the rule by which souls enter heaven or hell, I am not choosing to go there, he sends me. He failed to give the tiniest bit of evidence for his existence, therefore the only logical position is to reject his claims.
While he's being quite blunt about it, in essence he is true in saying that there's no logical reason to believe Hell exists, much less to describe it in any way. I personally find it more interesting where places like Hell and Heaven would be located. Which to me completely nullifies free will.
He is too blunt about it, in fact, very offensive about it. He is basically saying my whole religion is fake and believing in it classifies you as an insane person.
And you are saying I deserve to be burned in a place called hell, where a fallen angel will toerture me forever and ever till the end of time. How da hell are you better?
And you haven't considered how offensive it potentially is to someone when you say you blindly have to believe the same thing as you to avoid eternal damnation in Hell?
I didn't directly say you deserve to burn in Hell. Look at all of my posts. I just said what I think Hell is like and I even hoped that UnitRico doesn't go to it. Nobody deserves to go to Hell, not even Hitler. I don't think you should go to Hell either, but that is your decision to make. The only way I'll find out is if I see you there.
Whether you think anyone deserves it or not, you still state that his beliefs are fake, and believing it will get you into Hell, a place of eternal sorrow and suffering. It's great and all that you say you're offended by things, but if you don't consider the feelings and thoughts of other yourself claiming you're offended is even an even more empty claim than normal. Also, this just occurred to me, but just how weird is it to read a serious post like this when you see a picture of a dinosaur wearing sunglasses in the corner of your eye?
You said, that you think that if you beleive in god you go to heaven, if not you go to hell. By your defintion, that means in your opinion I will go to hell, because I reject the notion of god. So you kind of did say that I derserve to be there. But your answer now offers another dillema: If you think no one deserves to go to hell, but god sends me (and others) there, that makes this act of god immoral, which cant be as you said previously.... And dont come with "you are sending yourself", I allready explained why that is not the case....
I'm just going to give up on you two. You guys are just going to argue about my thinking and I'll just give you the same answers. I believe that there is a hell =/= I think people who don't believe deserve to hell. ????????? What!!!!???
If god is good I think if I say this to him he will grant me access to heaven: well god I didn't believe in you because human stories weren't believable. I was a good human, did my best..............also If you Plato and Voltaire there you are awesome. Even if you are little bit impotent eh?
You actually stated your opinion who gets to hell and who doesnt, you not just said that you believed a hell exists. You said: God is allways morally correct There is a hell (established by god, including the rules by which you go there) People who dont believe in god will go to hell Meaning: Since I dont believe in god, I will be sent to hell by god. Since gods actuions are ALLWAYS morally correct, I deserve to go to hell. q.e.d.
Your saying we are being offensive when you are basically saying that your religion is correct and we are all gonna go to hell for not believing in it. Yup. We're the offensive ones here.
He can believe in whatever the fuck he wants and you can't do anything about it. You are the offensive one here for trying to tell him what to believe. You have absolutely no say in what he can and can't believe in. Get off your high horse and realize that you are exactly the kind of stereotypical asshole atheist that everybody hates.
You should try not to contradict yourself when it comes to arguments, in that case. He hasn't said shit, you don't actually have to defend your views, you are doing nothing but pestering him about his faith. And then you accuse him of being 'offensive'. You whack. You even called God Hitler. If that's not offensive I don't know what is. I'm not going to read the entire thread, by the way.
First of all I did not call God Hitler. I said if you think God is still good if he murdered 6 million people, that is the equivalent to a kid in Nazi germany calling Hitler good. Yet since God has not murdered 6 million people as far as I know, he is not the equivalent of Hitler. And would you not take offense if somebody said "You are going to hell because you don't believe what I believe"?
No. I wouldn't take offense. In fact, I'd be rather interested to see why they thought I was going to hell, and then shrug it off. Because I'm not a sensitive babby who cares about the beliefs of others. I do, however, take offense when people call other people's faiths 'offensive', and now we're going around in a circle. I am of the belief that you will go to hell regardless as to whether or not you believe in God. I'm the only one who gets into heaven.
