Israel and Iran - Will we see air strikes soon?

Yea thats nice and all, but most would like to see to it that a extremist theocratic regime who routinely makes death threats against Isreal does not get their hands on the most powerful weapon on earth. I really can't understand your logic in this, it seems to boil down to some kindergarden idea of fairness(kids you gotta share, everyone should get a nuke because that's only fair). We are talking about weapons of mass destruction here, not some toy kids play with.
The fewer people who have their fingers on a launch button, the less likely it is that an apocalypse happens.

Exactly. Iran is not the most trustworthy and peace-loving of countries.

Yeah, of course they'll nuke Israel without any doubt! Because you know, nuking a narrow strip of land controlling your Holy city that is bordering you and has shown to be capable to win wars against anyone in the region is obviously what anyone would do.
And they dislike Israel and the US! They even made threats! They must be insane, INSANE I TELL YOU!

And I've said it several times, and will say it again, no one should have nukes, nor should anyone be allowed to.

While I definitely agree with your last statement, I think I've described above pretty well why I think people underestimate the Iranian government. Yes, they're a theocracy, which is of course a bad thing (Think of what would happen if Santorum would get elected...), and they've said multiple times that they want Israel wiped out (as Israel is a threat to them, the wording is just ridiculous, though), it doesn't mean they're going to fucking nuke them. You and I can both figure out why that's a fucking stupid idea, why would a bunch of people who are leading a country (no matter how terrible of a job they're doing) not get the same idea?

Because, you know, the US never starts any wars or anything.

This quote was a mistranslation. I suggest you research this line. Even if it was true, Israel has been threatening Iran with attack for over a decade. Unlike Iran, Israel's threats actually hold weight, with the backing of the biggest superpower in the world that also despises Iran.

Name a war the Iranians initiated.

Ok. But some nations already have nukes. We can't make them destroy them. So why should we let one more nation get nukes?

There have been talks about disarmaments, but humans are never going to go through with it. Unless you count blowing every single one of them up as disarmament.

But let's wait with any aggression until the reports from the investigations come in. The world should disarm their nukes, but especially an unstable region like the Middle East should not contain any nukes whatsoever.

That's not what I was saying, about them for sure nuking Jerusalem, but my point was that if you were Israel, would you let them get WMDs? That, and they're a radical, somewhat unstable regime.

Well, I wasn't referring directly to Jersusalem, but my point still stands. Nuking Israel is a bad idea in every sense of the word. It doesn't matter how radical or corrupt the regime is, they're not just going to drop a random nuke somewhere.

And of course, I can understand that Israel feels threatened by a potential Iranian nuke, but how about the other way around? Iran has little to no allies, and is continuously being threatened by Israel. They're being pushed in a corner. If they're going to nuke someone, they're going to be have to be forced to.

Although they haven't started any wars yet, they aren't the nicest of people.

I'm sorry, but I don't know about that. Do you know where that line was supposed to have been said? At The World Without Zionism, which is basically just a rally of hatred against Israel. Ahmadinejad questions that the Holocaust ever happened, for God's sake. You don't think he at least thinks that Israel should be wiped off the map? Though of course there is a power struggle going on right now in Iran, so he might not be "President" for long now. Also, as pottman said, even though they haven't started any wars, they do harbor lots of terrorists, so no, though they haven't actually had a war, they've encouraged violence. And here's another quote from Ahmadinejad "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury". Yeah, real peaceful.

The actual translation was something like "the regime occupying Jerusalem" to "vanish from the page of time".

This is what Israel has said:

I recommend reading this article from Noam Chomsky: http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/ira...noam-chomsky-iran-israel-or-the-united-states.

Interesting article. However, It's a thin line from "Vanish from the page of time" to "Wiped off the map". They want the Jewish State of Israel gone, either way, replaced with a so called Islamic "Republic". Iran can claim they just want Nuclear power all they want, we know the truth. If they did, they would have let U.N. Inspectors in a long time ago, and wouldn't be trying to clean up sites the inspectors are going to .

I can't let this claim slide. There is precisely zero evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear weapons. In fact, the US directly contradicts this claim. The US Defence Secretary says:

No Evidence? Here's a nice quote: "Satellite images of an Iranian military facility show trucks and earth-moving vehicles at the site, indicating that crews were trying to clean it of radioactive traces possibly left by tests of a nuclear-weapon trigger, diplomats said Wednesday." Yeah, no suspicious activity there.
Here's the link to the article: http://www.freep.com/article/201203...y-be-trying-to-hide-evidence-of-nuclear-tests

How is that a kindergarten idea of fairness? The way you worded that sounds like a cheap way to invalidate your opposition.

I hope Ahmadinejad gets re-elected to be honest. He is trying to negotiate a little with the US, where as Khamenei wants nothing to do with the negotiations.

Because not everyone should get WMDs. Unless you think otherwise?

Because the idea that everyone needs nukes just for the sake of fairness, sounds like we are talking about kindergardeners and their toys and not weapons of mass destruction.

Just because the US has WMD's, it does not mean Iran deserves to get WMD's. What he is trying to say is we are not in kindergarten where everybody gets to have an equal amount of everything. This is nuclear weapons, not toys.

Doesn't sound like it to me. A few questions.
1) Is unfairness really more appropriate?

2) You say Iran is an extremist theocratic regime, well in your mind what will happen if they got a nuke?

3) If you said they would nuke Israel, why?

Well why does the US deserve nukes? I guess you're not saying that. Why should America have them is a better question.