Should We Go After Kony Poll

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  1. 1Historygenius Member

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    I am curious to see what is your opinion on if we should go after Joseph Kony. The reason the poll is not on here would be because I have posted this on two other forums I am on just to see what a lot of people think about this.

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    Well it matters how would it be done?
  3. joske Well-Known Member

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    The US is already "going after" Kony, it aids Ugandan and Congolese troops who are going after the LRA with traning, support, air support (iirc) and they probably also have some special forces units up there. I mean ,some conservative talk show host even complained a few months ago the US was aiding the persecution of Christians by Muslims or something by doing this (asserting that the LRA were good christians).
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    Good lord no!!! Why bother with a warlord in Africa when we have another war to fight in the Middle East and our economy is on it's death bed. We should take care of all the problems we currently have instead of starting one in Uganda! Now does this man need to go? Yes. Is he a bad man? Yes. Should the US take him out with record debt, a war in Afghanistan, and a possible war with Iran? No!

    And besides if the US did go into Uganda to get Kony, they will find its pretty hard to hunt down a single man in Uganda of all places. It sometimes takes me months to find the remote in house!
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    If the U.S. did it, which it doesn't have to be it would only be a very small force probably less than a thousand
    That isn't another war it's a very small mossion and it wouldn't last that that long either.
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    You honestly believe that dropping a small force of troops into one of the most psychotic hellholes on the plant to hunt a master of both guerrilla and jungle warfare, in his own backyard, is a good idea?
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    It still seems that no matter, that the operation, no matter what size the force, and no matter of the current situation, most people do not want to go after Kony.
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    He'll just become the next Osama. How the Hell do we catch a guy in some hut in the middle of the jungle? It'll take years, we'll lose millions, and if anything goes wrong it's our fault.

    So no, fuck them. Every time America interviens I hear nothing but "American Imperialism" left, right, and center. Let the Central African "governments" deal with it themselves.
  10. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Haha, American Imperialism? Your cracking me up!
    Kony will just stay in Uganda roaming around until he kills over. We will just shake our fists at him from across the water.
  11. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Kony has reportedly already left Ughanda. The Kony 2012 film said that.
    Which made one of my associates point out that the film still asks people to send their support so that Ughanda will benefit so they can fight Kony... even though he technically isn't even there anymore.
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    Hmm, that is odd. If he is gone what is the problem? Where would the money be going?
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    Apparently they still want money for watch towers or some **** and money to train Ughandan soldiers who can't cross the border.
    According to the film, a couple of runaways were the ones to report that Kony left Ughanda. You know why? Its because he knew that the Ughandan troops wouldn't be able to follow him out of the boarders.

    That is the shady part of this.
    The Kony 2012 foundation is apparently known for not being that transparent.
    According to a website that is responsible for tracking charities like the Kony 2012 foundation, they [the Kony 2012 foundation] have recieved some 11 million in funds so far and have spent approximately 8 million, most of it on filming and paying their employees.
    One of my associates says that it is too shady to believe that their only objective is to help people.
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    Well it just gets more suspicious the more you know. The first thing I thought watching the film was that it had to be very expensive to make a film like that.
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    Expensive, time consuming, etc.
    Having some bare knowledge in the psychological aspect of modern advertizment doesn't hurt either.
    You would probably be amazed and probably even more appalled by the sheer amount of psychology that is used in advertizing these days.
    The moment that they put on that little boy, you know that these guys are slick ****s. They are tugging at the heart, trying to guilt people.
    It may have had a good place in the film and a meaningful place, but it collapses to the fact that stopping Kony, as [Kara?] pointed out, will by no means stop the multitudes of terrible things that happen around the globe every day.
    It was pure propoganda affect, intentional or not.
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    Yes the kid is really what gives them away! Its just like the new Herman Cain ad and LBJ's Daisy Ad. When you use a child for mature messages, you are engaging in propaganda.
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  17. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    Well, to be fair, propoganda was the whole purpose. They would just object to the negative connotations that accompany propoganda.

    But yeah, the kid really gave it away.

    Also, notice how they started with that African guy as a kid. In a purely mature film, they would probably have him in a formal interview discussing what happened in Ughanda. I mean, it isn't like its beyond his abilities, right? He IS studying to be a lawyer according to the film.

    All that and the fact that they were discussing media, connection, and Facebook and stuff like that at the beginning.

    It was pure propoganda from start to finish. As a matter of fact, after watching it, one of my associates literally said "That was some GOOD propoganda." That was the first comment on it that anybody in my group made having finished watching it.

    Alot of their stuff is a mix of propoganda under the guise of the mechanics of what they mean to do. The evolving technology part for example, is both propoganda and a nod at what people are supposed to do.
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  18. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    It couldn't have been more obvious if they put "Paid for by the Josef Gobbles Research Foundation" at the end.
  19. Imperial1917 City-States God of War

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    LOL. They probably did... just in tiny print like so many ads do.
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    I may be going down the rabbit hole with this one, but fuck it. Counter-propaganda FTW:

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