What is "having a consciousness"?

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  1. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    Oh sorry want my to stop just say so!
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    You can continue but post it in moderation. Anyways good luck in the elections.
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    Ok thanks!
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    Does Alex Tran give numba one fuckies. (Joke)
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    *laugh*
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    You won't like him when he's angry.

    Alex Tran is a shameless self promoting scoundrel:
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    Your own brain. Your own actions. You compel yourself to do what is right and wrong. Only you can convince yourself what is right and wrong.

    Something puts a stain on your faith. What do you do? You try to forget about it and ignore it!

    And it pisses other people off to be preached to.
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    Forgot to add "and learn from it".
    Is there something wrong with sharing what little joy I have in life with others?
    You know the guilt you get after doing something wrong, well I see that as you acknowledging you didn't do what God wants.
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    Fair enough.
    My point is, you say you are allowed to preach freely, and then start telling someone else to stop campaigning.
    lolz.
  10. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    You have a point but it was really getting old because in every thread that is all I see.
    Laugh at my belief all you want, I won't stop believing it.
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    Do you not see the absurdity of what you are saying? You are basically saying humans have no free will. Zip, Mil, None, Zero, nada. What you are basicaly saying is we are puppets of God. We are all mind controlled by God, and as soon as we break God's grasp and do something he doesn't like he makes us feel bad about it. Yet what about all those murderers that don't feel bad? I guess they are all controlled by Sat...oh wait. But they can't be because that would mean the INquisition members, and many popes and priests were under Satan's influence....
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    There is free will, you aren't understanding my point. My point is that God tells us what we SHOULD do but he DOESN'T force us to do it. We would feel bad about it because we obviously have a conciousness which tells us that we didn't do the right thing. Of course people have been under Satan's influence even Popes and Priests.
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    Conspiracies , conspiracies everywhere.
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    We must blame JFK........JFK didn't die!
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    Of course he did, only it wasn't Oswald.
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    Please tell me how there is a Satan? How can God who is supposed to be the all knowing amazing only can do good being, allow Satan to exist? If God is so powerful and so good, how can evil exist? Oh wait, I forgot, God is powerful enough to control your thought, and can make the universe and the human race, and life possible, but somehow he can't stop evil from existing in the world he created.
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    Great points you have but also have a look at Adam and Eve, God knew they would want to eat the apple. so why put them there my conclusion is that God wanted them to eat it. Reminds me of Pandora's box(Greek Mythology).
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    Exactly , infact god would know everything about everyones life before even creating them. He would know exactly why they would come to every decision they ever made and the circumstances around them that lead to them making that decision. How could he possibly justify condemning people to hell for something he practically purpose built them to do?
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    Wait, what? Do you people really exist? Satan? All of us make fun of you across the Atlantic, but I wasn't aware that there were actually people who believe in Satan. It makes me lose faith in humanity knowing that some people will subscribe to the most ridiculous of ideas and dedicate their entire existence to it.
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    I doubt it ever will, nor is it desirable to reach that. Why replace humans with computers (who for a long time won't be able to do it better anyway) when you can also have computers do the things they do best?

    So, God says what you *should* do, and if you don't, you'll be sent to Hell when you die? That's not free will. That's blackmail.

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