At what point was Nazi Germany doomed to defeat?

how can you tell that 100000 against 36 ,000 + a bad commander general experience doesnt make miracles

My opinion on it is that it wasn't your average Italian soldier was an average fighter, but the generals, supplies, raw materials, and modernized stuff, or lack of in either quantity or quality, was what made Italy so useless in WW2.

I agree and everybody from the generals to mussolini knew that Italy wasnt even close to be ready to participate to a world war we didnt have aircraft carriers, our navy was a bit old for the time and our tanks were just tractors with some metal on it . mussolini expected the war to be over in a couple of years that was his only reason to declare war .

I believe that when Hitler told Mussolini about the invasion of Poland, Mussolini said he couldn't join because Italy was not ready to go to war at all. Hitler said OK, and he didn't have to participate in the invasion of Poland.

yep but that was a lie to prepare Italy for war it would have taken more than 1 year maybe even 5 years, but because he was a ruthless and shortsighted man saying" i need a couple of thousand of deaths to sit at the winners table" he decided to declare war the june 10th 1940

Ok thanks.

Yes but in Hitler's mind the Americans were no threat at the time. So your right, he wasn't dragged into the war but he was certainly inclined to do it.

The Germans were poised to take Leningrad, Moscow, and Stalingrad with little trouble. And Operation Sealion certainly wasn't out of the questioned.

They didn't need to invade Siberia, they merely had to destroy the Industry located there probably through strategic bombardment. Stalin would've stayed in the war, but he would've simply become a minor, fringe threat without industry or a means to get more guns.

Most of Eastern Russia is in the same boat. They only needed to take the major cities like Vladivostok and then keep the coastline blockaded/destroy roads and train-lines and perhaps airports.

Firstly, they had enough troops to keep the front static in China and invade Eastern Russia. That's all they needed to do, as well. China was bleeding out. They didn't have the production to stop Japan without foreign help. And of course, foreign help was running thin with places like the UK under siege.

Australia had no military power to speak of. Japan could've crushed it easy. And if they couldn't, so what? They didn't need to.

If Hitler had enough patience and time to build up the proper resources for an attack on Britain, he could've done it. He needed strategic bombers, not the close air support units he used in the actual Battle of Britain.

Others would include:
Canada - No threat at all. They could only supply minimal manpower and industrial aid to the Allied forces.
North Africa - A problem. Though he merely had to delay them long enough to free up forces from the Eastern Front and the UK.
The Middle East - Hitler was planning on getting help from Irani and Arab rebels during his invasion. With that help and the crushed Allied forces, it would not have been a problem.
America - America would not have entered the war without provocation. Hell, we were still debating the Neutrality Act while Hitler had conquered Europe and was gassing millions of people.
Other states in the Americas - They were never a problem.
African colonies - With their mother countries destroyed, the majority would've folded over. Though it is unlikely that a real invasion of Africa would've been a success due to the terrain. My guess is if Hitler had used some sense he'd just ignore it for later.
South Africa - Same boat as Canada.
India - Would've been a bitch to invade. Hitler could've done it though if he had enough troops. Mind you, it could be like 1948 before he had enough troops.

The word you're looking for is Persian.

I once read that the Italian military leaders didn't think they would be ready until 1942.

The moment the germans where doomed? In my oppionion, Dunkerque!
Not neccesarilly because of the strategical implications, but that is the defining moment where he made it clear to all high ranking generals that only he is in charge! Hitlers tactical and strategical know-how was horrible. If he would listen to the Wehrmacht generals, he might would have done "better". Thankfully he did not and got his ass handed to him.

I think they lost after Kursk. After Stalingrad they were in a bad position in the east but there was still a small possibility that they would defeat the Soviets and maybe get a peace deal. They tried it at Kursk, the attack failed and after that Germany never regained the initiative in the war. The defeats at Stalingrad and Kursk destroyed a large part of the Wehrmacht and Germany couldn't replace these troops.

I believe I read somewhere that this was the reason the Allies gave up on assassinating Hitler at the end of the war. They where afraid a competent general would take over and make the war last longer.

Lol. HItler was used by the allies.

You wrote: "Hitler was used by the Allies"
I read: "Hitler was used by the Aliens"

I KNEW IT!1! ALIENS IS THE ONLY ANSWER FOR WWII!1

Are the 1's supposed to be like some secret alien message?

Sorry, WWI would be aliens, WWII is Templars maaaaaaaaaaaaan.

You know way too much. Run, nao.

Yarpen!
111.1.1.11.11.111111111.1.1.1.1.11.1..1.11111.1.1.11111.1.1111

There are two ones, 11, one plus one = 2, 11*2=22, two, two twos, four, times two = 8, ALIENS!!