Yeah cause I'm sure every guy who is in the friendzone is in love with some girl who is always going out with jerks. That's the nice guy logic: "Oh she doesn't want to date me well then she must only like to date guys who treat her like crap." You either watch way too many romantic comedies or you've bought into the idea that girls like being treated like crap from all the "nice guys" who rant all over the internet. If a girl doesn't want to date you it's her choice and most importantly she shouldn't date anyone she doesn't feel attracted to. I have female friends who I love, but it's platonic and I didn't catch any flak for it when one of them liked me. It seems unfair to women to be obligated to date someone or else she's a dumb bitch. Agreed and that's my point as to why I think the friendzone isn't real because some guy doesn't want to think of himself as rejected. Of course there's a reverse the reason I didn't mention it in OP was because it's very rare to hear a girl complain about being friendzoned. Mostly it's guys who give the same lame ass story of "I was super nice to her, but she didn't want to date me. There must be something wrong with girls." If we were talking about whether people like partners who are highly sexual then it would mostly lean on the idea of whether a girl was a "slut." It's not that I chose not to speak of female friendzoning because of oppression of the female, but because it seemed unnecessary to talk about something that no one voices a lot about.
Perhaps an exaggeration, but still few are going to sit there and analytically say the women they love is better off with someone else. Perhaps you can use it to justify your vague form of feminazism, but it's human nature. A girl who loves a guy would feel the same way. No that's reasonable logic. Are you saying you personally would be a bad partner? No of course not, we all believe we'd be reasonably good at it if given the proper chance. And that's not what I said at all, either. You're stretching things so far I wouldn't know you were talking about me if you hadn't quoted me. Isn't it nice to pretend your opponent is somehow either stupid or ill informed? I never said that. I merely said that you can't blame a man for falling in love. Don't pretend you don't like to fuck any less than anyone else. And come on, you'd like to see them in your arms just as much as anyone else. It's not like your the only one who can love in a not, "I only am here to fuck you" kind of way. There's plenty of people who feel the same way but are locked in the friendzone. That's why it's a problem. If you could care less who you had sex with so long as you had sex, the friendzone would never be a problem. You'd just abort and shoot for another girl. The reason why friendzones are bad is because guys actually love girls and desperately want to enter a relationship. Er, ya. That's because she liked you back. If not she would've made the situation awkward as fuck. I never said that. No one ever said that.
The friendzone is when you like a girl AND she likes you back, but she it afraid to lose the friendship between you two, and so she will not go out with you. And then there is also the guyzone, where a girl becomes just "one of the guys".
Why wouldn't they? Wouldn't it make sense if you truly loved someone that you would want them to be with the best person possible. I certainly wouldn't want to keep someone from happiness if they don't find it with me. Feminazism? I'm just stating that women aren't idiots that purposefully choose guys who would hurt them while picking guys who would treat them well and putting them in the "friendzone." Like you mentioned above no one analyzes their love for someone. I may be a personally bad partner for someone who wants to live in the midwest or is very religious or even is very materialistic. There are many women I would be a bad choice as a boyfriend for. I'm not gonna go around claiming I'm fantastic for everyone. That would be delusional or egotistical. I'd like to think a lot of things about myself doesn't mean they're true. Most people consider idealism as a virtue not a flaw. Stupid and ill informed would only make sense if you took advice from romantic comedies. To have high expectations for a relationship isn't viewed as a bad. I can't blame a man for loving a woman. I can however blame him for trying to get a girl to date him because he's nice to her through guilt. No one's entitled to date anyone. I enjoy sex like any other person. It's fun, pleasurable and good for you. I wouldn't like to see every girl in my arms cause not every girl is that interesting to me. Of course I can love in more than just a sexual way I just choose not to feel entitled to a girl's love or sexual playtime. The problem is people can't get over the idea of being rejected so when someone says "no I don't want to date cause I don't view you as a potential love interest" they think they must try harder rather than respecting a person for their choice. Love and respect are mutual things just like love and trust. Having sex without romantic feelings is called a casual relationship or a freind with benefits. It happens all the time and people enjoy them. The friendzone exists because a guy likes a girl and feels she's obligated to reciprocate those feelings. It's platonic. Platonic means love that has no romantic or sexual interest in it. She liked me, but I didn't like her back as a potential lover. She respected my feelings like an adult rather than pushing harder to try to gain my affection. That's why we're still friends and she isn't brooding over me not liking her. Of course you didn't. I'm saying that the friendzone doesn't exist because all it is is some guy who thinks he's the hero of his own story so he believes that any women he finds interest in is automatically suppose to feel the same. He believes he's entitled to her love because he thinks he's amazing. When she denies him instead of respecting that he goes off on a petty rant about how she should be dating him cause of what an amazing person he is. To him she is an idiot because she doesn't want to date him. You call that love I call that ego. His ego is hurt not his heart.
Yes I'm sure you're all sex gods. Of course, being nerdy kids on an obscure wacky internet forum, you must all be total Casanovas. Please tell us more of your wisdom from your extensive experience, I'm sure you've read all about women in a textbook. If I could chip in my two cents on a related note, I'd just tell everyone not to be afraid of rejection. Seriously, get used to it. If a girl doesn't like you then oh well. She's not the only one on earth, don't treat it like the world has ended. No, there really isn't anything special about her, don't waste your life endlessly going after her. There are plenty of fish in the sea. The guys who get more girls than you expect do it by embracing that fact.
Casanova was a wacky nerd. Does that mean everyone on this forum is socially inept? Would it really be smart to try and categorize individuals into one common experience based of someone's gender? Wow...such wisdom. Anyone is gonna tell you that. Also it makes logical sense that the guy with a bigger net is gonna catch more fish.
Mate, if I didn't see heaps and heaps of guys ignore this fact all the time, and even sensed it amongst members of this forum, I wouldn't have said it.
Noted. On that I request that this be locked because I have no interest in the topic any longer. I've heard enough of people's thoughts and don't wish to receive any more notifications on this topic.
Well I do not have first hand experience in the friendzone, my brother does, he fell in love hard with a co worker, and he constantly wanted to be in a relationship with her, she would invite him to parties and they would go eat, but when he asked her out alone, she told him they were just friends, and my brother was devastated. He moved on but his feelings are still there for this girl its really painful to watch, he ended up being laid off because it affected his work, I hope that shit doesn't happen to me or anyone here.
Holy shit, you guys sure can get into an argument over women. Here's an idea, try spending less time thinking and discussing females in every possible way to males, and try spending more time with females. Don't spend hours and hours forming a plan to get into one particular girl's pants, it'll never work.
