"History Is Useless"

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  1. C_G Well-Known Member

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    This is an argument I have been having with someone for a considerable amount of time. I am personally against the statement and believe that only through judging events that have happened throughout history, without bias, can we determine the future course of the human race.

    What do you lot think?
  2. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    I believe that we learn from our past, obviously :p
  3. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    I believe we learn from the past to some extent. Even if you don't think we learn from the past as a hole, we do learn from our own past experiences.
  4. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    History isn't entirely useless, sometimes it is, but that's all depending on what you're using it for. I don't think you can clearly determine the future with information from the past, but I wouldn't tell someone not to give it a try and present whatever they wanted.

    You can also use history to stay away from repeating the same mistakes that caused massive trouble before.
  5. Melanthropist Well-Known Member

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    Fuck people who think they have the right to determine what is "useless". I could not give less than a damn about the practical value of history, nor do I wish to try and convince someone that it has practical value, all I care about is that it is extremely interesting to me.
  6. Achtung Kommunisten! Well-Known Member

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    Surely everything is history of some sort, even this thread right now. I mean, it won't end up in anyone's book, but it's an event, that happened, and there's evidence of it.
    So, history is not useless, history is everything. But then I would say that 'cos i'm a history student.
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    A wise man once said: "History is the key to understanding the present and predicting the future."
    Without history, where would we be now?
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  8. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

    Besides the fact the history is very interesting to me at least, there is no denying the value of looking at mistake or events from the past and learning from them.
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    That is exactly what I think. Anyone who disagrees is a fool.
  10. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunatly many people do not see the value of the past, and just view it as a bunch boring stories about dead people.
  11. JayJayGT Well-Known Member

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    Not going to lie, if there is a cataclysmic event that reverts the human race to anarchy... I am getting my ideas from the Romans and creating a 'Caesar's Legion'.

    But to a more likely view... history is important for many reasons, one of them being able to look at the past analyse certain events and either take note and not make those mistakes in the future or reflect and improve our lives. We cannot though utterly dismiss this persons point of view without considering their values and reasoning behind this opinion, even if we ourselves think it is false.
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    No, no, and no. History will never be useless we will always need history to teach us a lesson wither good or bad. I mean look at the ATOM bomb we learned that after we use that not only can we destroy almost anything but that we must never use it. The Cold War we learned that two Super Powers held the keys of Armageddon because of different political ideologies and to never let it happen again. All in all we will always need history to teach us.
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    You guys are fools. We haven't learned a fucking thing. Nor do we intend to.
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  14. UnitRico Well-Known Member

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    I've got to agree with this. While history can certainly teach us a lesson, we haven't learned a damn thing.

    As for its usefulness, it depends. Were it for pure survival, there's no need for history to be taught. Then again, a vast majority of the things we do and have these days aren't for survival anymore. To me, it's kind of a vague question.
  15. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Does not take away fromt the fact that there is value in looking at the past, most people just don't, which is why we never learn anything.
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  16. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    Well if most people aren't going to use it anyway, why teach it to most people? Sure preserve history, but why spend millions teaching it to everyone who (as you say) wont learn anything from it?
  17. GeneralofCarthage Well-Known Member

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    I have had this argument with several people in my school, because I love history and I am very expressive of it. I say that the reason we learn history is so we don't repeat past mistakes and we learn why the world is like it is today. I am very biased in this sense because I love it with a passion.
  18. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    History is 100% useless infact we should never study anything from are past again, fuck that shit we need to focus on are future and how to fuck it up.
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    So I can get fucking paid in the potential future? Teaching Social Studies is starting to look like a pretty good career choice for me at this point, don't ruin this for me asshole.
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