Moments in Human History that changed the World?

German tribes weren't the cause; merely the catalyst.

What?

Wtf???? lol

Indeed likewise Roman society did not fall with the Empire itself. So setting a date or a cause for the fall of rome is meaningless.

There were many causes, but at the forefront of them was the inability to properly defend their borders from invaders, mainly from said place the Romans failed to passify after the Teutoburg forest battle.

Pacify.
And, unlike most people on the internet, I will not pretend to be an expert on Roman history, however neither will abandon my statements.

Damnit, I always get that word wrong.

I think you meant "spanned" but I wasn't sure.

How can you say that Teutoborg forest would have pacified the german tribes? What evidence can you possibly have to suggest this?

The Romans had all but pacified Germany by this time. Again, I refer you to look at Caesar in Gaul. This uprising, was similar to Vercingetorix's uprising. It was their last chance, and they were gonna gamble everything. If they had lost, then they would have given up, like the Gauls did, and ended up, again, like the Gauls did.

Jesus fucking christ, the Romans had by this time already expanded to the Elbe. They withdrew from that area after Teutoburg, because Augustus feared the Germans were gonna come pouring through Gaul.

Meh.

There are many reasons for Roman expansion in this times. The first that comes to mind is not unlike the reason the Greeks had to found a shitload of colonies all over the northern Meditereanian Sea and the Black Sea Region: Lack of suitable farm land in the home land (I could go deeper into this, like explaning the inheritance laws leading to this problems and the reforms that promised every soldiere land after his duty was done etc etc, but I don't think it's neccessary). One other reason was the mass amount of wealth Rome gathered through conquest. And the third reason, and one of most overlooked, is the ambition some few man had, to become this great conqueror. Julius did it, and many more too. Fact is, the Battle at Teuteburg Forest happened 100 years before the Roman Empire reached it's maximal extent. So based on these facts, we can assume that expanding further into the Germanic realm is exactly what was planned.
On the otherhand I seriously doubt that this battle was the one factor that lead to the decision not to do it. There were more, and mor important ones.

Wasn't the reason they withdrew in the first place because they lost 3 of their best legions, and feared that the Germans would launch an invasion of Gaul?

There wasn't "the Germans", there were many many tribes that hated other tribes and had bloodfeuds and this and that. If they were to be united, maybe, but they weren't. So no.

I would trust this guy, he's german.

Also sly I find it hilarious how you always spout your 'knowledge' of Roman history when you fail to acknowledge that the Germans were very disunited.

When he says Germans, he is refering to the various tribes that would frequently trouble the Empire throughout it's history(especially in the latter years). Had Teutoburg not happened, most of the tribes and confederations(Franks, Saxons, Alemanni ) that would trouble the Romans so much later on, would be pacified and Romanized.

I know the Germans were not united. There were so many freaking Germanic tribes that I don't know the name of, that I just refer to them as Germans or Germanic tribes. I read somewhere though, that the Romans were afraid that the Germanic tribes that Ariminius had united for a long time would invade Gaul. That's what I meant.

Jesus fucking christ, I know they were not one united group. I just refer to them as Germans or Germanic tribes, because there are so many that I don't know the names of at the time, and Ariminius united quite a few.

That would not have changed anything. Remember why the Germanic tribes troubled the Romans later on. They had to move west, because they fled from those coming from the east. Now, in your scenario, other tribes like the Samartians as an example would have fled from the huns into Roman lands, result is the same (more or less). The Roman Empire of the later days was bound to fall. Now, you can argue that the fleeing germanic tribes accelerated that process, but not to the degree you and sly want to make it to.