Proposal NVKD Senate and House Reform Draft (congress) -Hear me out please!

Discussion in 'Site Policy and Rule Announcements' started by Vulcan200x, May 15, 2012.

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  1. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    Look just hear me out......@JosefVStalin We need some type of legislative action on the forums for site policy , and since tribunes did not work maybe can enact an similar version United States Senate and House. This will enable a democratic way to do simple legislative actions "like deciding on JosefvStalin next let's play or something" or overturning a ban or something. Like in United States doing this will eliminate the ideal of factionalism because we will have a good chuck of people become "Senators and Representatives" so everybody can have their stay. I have worked on this for weeks and decide to share my idea to the forums :D. Please hear me out and discuss

    Background history of forums' government

    Old Age
    -mods governed the system with tribunes of the forums EX: (Elitist theory)
    Pro
    -Group discusses enacting on decisions enables a rational action
    Con
    -Factionalism on for tribunes and some bias

    Current Age
    -@JosefVStalin has all the power and the mods bids to his whim
    Pro
    -Swift action ensuring resolved problems
    Con
    -Complete Bias

    Future Age
    -Everybody has a say with checks and balances
    Pro
    Everybody will have a say
    Con
    -delayed action and some chaos
    NOTICE MEMBERS WILL NOT HAVE THE POWER TO LOCK OR EDIT THREADS
    The Members

    Senate Members: 10 members (label them or subtitle them) Ex: Sen: Vulcan200x

    Senate House
    Senators Requirements
    -must at least be on the forums for six months
    -must have at least 500 posts

    Senates' term
    6 month term
    1/5 of the senate is reelected every two months (5 senators)

    The House of Representative

    Representative members: 15 members (label them or subtitle them) Ex: Rep: Vulcan200x


    Representative requirements
    -must at least be on the forums for two monthes
    -must have at least 100 posts

    Representative term
    -2 month term
    entire membership change

    This ensure a good chunk of people will have a say in the site policy and what not

    How this will work............?

    Lawmaking?
    -either the house or the senate will propose a bill or enact for something

    -A member will propose an issue and at least 2 members of the senate (if senator) and at least 5 members of the house

    -After the bill is proposed the house/ senate will vote on it you need at least more than half of the members to ensure it goes to the senate/ house and it will be discussed than after certain period, it be voted and sent to @JosefVStalin. Josefvstalin has the ability to to agree or veto it, if vetoed the senate will discuss. (discussion are one week)

    -the senate will need at at least 8 member to undo the veto.
    period to discuss one week than a vote
    Then the act to ensured and posted.

    Limits and rules to congress
    1. may not ban people
    2. may not question JosefvStalin incorporated actions

    Josefvstalin powers

    1. can make decisions incorporated with the smiles and happy act with out the senate
    2. can call a special meeting of on congress
    3. Any major choice has to go through the senate and at least 1/3 of the senate must agree

    How this will work with the forum?

    A five new forums topic threads

    Senate topic- only senators members can post here unless bill transfer
    House topic- only house members can post here unless bill transfer
    international discussion topic-only house and senates and mods and Stalin can discuss
    elections-for elections

    Elections

    to be nominated , need at least one person
    -during the elections- vote be divided into separate threads will the help of mods and regular clansmen
    -speech.....and debate threads can be made by anyone
    -elections is on the second week of Tuesday .

    The first round or to start the congress up;

    1. stalin, mods, and NKVD head branches can pick the first people of the new congress.

    Conclusion/Questions

    Why?

    -because to bring back the spirit of democratic forums and elections
    -could be fun

    too much work?
    -If much I be gladly to take more work for this

    Will I pay you for being a member of congress
    maybe...............?


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    I will be gladly to edit and change things for this to work. :D
  2. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Oh, that Tran man and his ideas.

    I liked it better when you posted things that only half made sense and were hilarious.
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  3. VladimirGLenin Well-Known Member

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    Huh.. Seems interesting...
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  4. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    What is that suppose to mean?
  5. DukeofAwesome Well-Known Member

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    I would want representation back but what you propose is just a bureaucratic mess. Do we even have 40 active members who would be willing to run this congress?
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  6. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    When you first started posting you were hilarious and everybody liked it when you posted.
  7. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    I think so, this is a draft remember?

    Really how do I get it back than? I am trying to be normal on the forums :p
  8. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    I voted yes, but I somehow think this will never be implemented. Oh and it needs to be simplified if we want it to work.
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  9. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    BE FUNNY YOU BITCH.
  10. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    It could we just need to believe :p
  11. Chives Newest Member

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    Role plays belong in the role play forum silly :p
  12. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    Now, that was mean Chives..this is serious and now you offended me once again :/
  13. esac1122 Team Fortress 2 Branch Head

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    I thought Chives was correct when I saw you made this thread.
  14. Anwrise888 Well-Known Member

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    If you were willing to put enough time and effort into this it deserve's to be considered. It also sound pretty cool. We all should talk about this more. People shouldn't be banned if there like by most people. All and all it seems pretty sound.
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  15. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    you just hate me bastard

    thanks
  16. Viking Socrates I am Mad Scientist

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    So is anyone ever going to actually give a real response to this, because I can not be bothered to do so.
  17. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    nobody takes me seriously :(
  18. Chives Newest Member

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    You don't seem to have serious ideas
  19. Vassilli1942 Well-Known Member

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    It feel it's way too complex to work.
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  20. Vulcan200x Well-Known Member

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    So you think this is not serious :/

    That is why is a draft, what could we change about it to work ?
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