A question isolationism vs intervention?

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  1. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    Uh... Light drugs are distributed by physicians and the government not private companies.
  2. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    what is alight drug and is cocaine or whatever else the cartels are trying to run hard? BTW as a drug dealer here is my new motto "stop with that light cigarets company lightweight shit homez, here try some of dee big money balla stuff ese vato!". We cubans and mexicans share the same language btw.

    An one more thing ROM tell your people to go back to mexico if they truly love it and TAKE IT BACK!!!
    You say you love the country and your people but you won't go back in this time of its greatest hour of need?
    Or are "part" american now?
  3. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    firstly California was a Mexican state a long time ago this is our home, secondly people leave to live a better life, I don't speak for every Mexican nor do I share the same thoughts, but one thing we Mexicans hold so much in common is brotherhood and family, many Mexicans stay to fight the cartels many stay because they believe in the country. Many Mexicans leave Mexico for a safer and prosperous life only to be treated with contempt discrimination and problem. I love Mexico and I know many people who share my feelings. I can't leave my family is here Nd so are many other peoples, going back to Mexico is near impossible for an immigrant and even harder for someone who has been here for generations. We are taking back our country and Men are giving there life to make sure Mexico can be safe again. Also you being Cuban isn't hypocritical for you saying this to me?

    cocaine is a hard drug, light drugs are those that relieve stress and are medicinal and organic in nature.
  4. Kali The World's Best Communist

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    All of the following is based on the assumption that Romulus is an American citizen, and I'm fairly confident this is the case. I was however unable to confirm this, even after looking through a ton of old posts. So if I'm wrong, disregard the portions that refer to your status as an American citizen. Otherwise, it's all valid.
    And a long time ago the Romans controlled most of continental Europe, and the British controlled India, and the Mongols controlled China...
    It's not your home in the sense that it's Mexican territory. It's your home in the sense that you're an American and you're living on American soil. Thing is, you're an American citizen. Your allegiance isn't to Mexico. You have benefited from this country for your whole life, and yet you claim you'd rebel if it helped Mexico fight the cartels. The reason you'd face discrimination is because you refuse to be an American, first and foremost, despite receiving all of the myriad benefits of that status.
    And there's nothing wrong with that. However, as citizens of this country their allegiance is to this country. If they're not citizens, that's another story, but there's no excuse for the purposeful dissociation from the nation you live in and benefit from because your ancestors lived somewhere else.
    You're not a Mexican.
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    lol imaginary borders.
  6. Kali The World's Best Communist

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    yeah lol the only things of real value are produced at the dirt farms and hammer-and-sickle factories.
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    Not really...
  8. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    Oh man this is going to be hard.

    1.I was refering to him telling Mexicans to go back to Mexico I was refering to the large mexican-Hispanic minority always living here.

    2.once again I am talking about the Mexican minority living in california, but I blame my bad writing ability on that.

    3.
    What you call allegiance I call comradery (spell check please) my allegiance is to those I love and hold dear to me, in this case I care more about the average Mexican citizen that on of the united states. What is an american? This country has a long history, originally the USA was meant ti be a safe haven for those who wish to get rid of the national identity, I would rebel and fight for those who I hold dear to my heart even if it means not being a model American, but I wont fight for nationalosm or patriotism. I'll fight for my brothers and sisters.

    4. Your right I owe my well being to the USA and I am grateful but what your talking about is not respect, it is blind nationalism.

    5. Your right I'm not Mexican I am a American citizen of Hispanic descent. but I am human first and American second.
  9. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    lol calm down rom i just wanted you to admit you would never leave america for mexico. Not many would same
    as many cuban's {not my dad unfortunately} have given up and just became "latin americans". What is an american anyways lol?
  10. Romulus211 Proconsul

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    I ask the same question.
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    A·mer·i·can

       [uh-mer-i-kuhn]
    adjective
    1.
    of or pertaining to the United States of America or its inhabitants: an American citizen.
    2.
    of or pertaining to North or South America; of the Western Hemisphere: the American continents.
    3.
    of or pertaining to the aboriginal Indians of North and South America, usually excluding the Eskimos, regarded as being of Asian ancestry and marked generally by reddish to brownish skin, black hair, dark eyes, and prominent cheekbones.

    source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/american
    I think definition number 1 is most relevant.
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    French can easily spot a french but oh no not american's we got every color in the book except orange.
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    You could argue there was labor involved in creating the imaginary borders, but I wont because that hurts me here.
  14. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    I'm for interventionism, I mean that kind of follows my views. BUT, in the case of Mexico I would not be in favor of any intervention because only the US would be behind it.
  15. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Just out of curiosity, how would you feel if Mexico asked America (and only America) for help, hypothetically of course.
  16. 3man75 Well-Known Member

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    We might try and see if we can send some money {i we already are but maybe find some more for them and the fedaralis} and keep training the
    fedarallis. I think actually this would be a good opportunity for a certain Venezuelan president who's name rhymes with javez to make a big speech of support.
  17. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Well if Mexico asked for help I'd be all for it. That is, if it was the wish of the average Mexican citizen. If it was only the government asking, I might still be for it, but I'd have reservations.
  18. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    We tried training an elite Mexican counter drug task force, but they defected and formed the most powerful and violent cartel in the country
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  19. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Mexico is very corrupt, the only way to fix it would be to kick the entire establishment down and build it back up from square one.
  20. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Or, just legalize drugs and end the madness...

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