Interesting Alternative to fiat money and ron paul GOOOOLD fanaticism

You thought we'd like him? He's the most right-wing candidate in the race. Hell, most socialists find him a much scarier alternative than any of the other candidates.

Plus, Libertarianism is completely out of touch with reality. Many of it's biggest followers are alex jones/NWO conspiracy theorist types. I know this sounds odd coming from me, but Libertarians really live in a reality of their own.

Yes he is. He is completely wrong. Equating Ron Paul with monarchists is one of the most legitimately retarded comparisons I've ever heard, ever. Just because you want to discredit the guy doesn't mean it's okay to throw logic and reality out the window.

EDIT: And plus, you're a lot better than that. You know it's a bullshit, nonsensical claim.

I meant about the whole "Old guard traditionalist" thing. What constitutes old in the states is vastly different then what constitutes old in Europe. Hence it not being as sinister as Lenin Cat made it out to be.

No, I kinda wanted he would write a huge reason of why he is bad, but I should've known. I was merely asking Lenin a question, and I don't like extremism whether it's left or right.

I get where you're coming from. I used to try a far more moderate approach to my beliefs, even when I first joined the forums. My opinion is that in the ideal world, a moderate approach would be best, and I know there are many people on these forums who would differ in opinion, but I feel that our current, compromise approach to politics has failed.

I used modern monarchists as a example of another old guard reactionary group.

They aren't necessarily reactionary even though they might represent something that(in it's origin/essence) is.

HAHAHA. Old guard reactionary, like the monarchists? Ron Paul is a libertarian, a revolutionary ideology, never put to practice. What a moron.

Even thougth it has strong ideals (which he never changed) and marxism is a complete failure everytime it was tryied? And Ron Paul and libertarianism are not "right wing". No tnly that, he is the lesss social conservative of the candidates. Santorum is the most "right-wing". Has I said many times (and I speake to walls, apparently) libertarianism has no place in the old political spectrum.

And the ideology is not represented by Alex Jones and his followers. There is a libertarian party and many organizations who promote the ideology, who are more important then Alex Jones and are in no way conspiracy theorists. Don´t speak of what you don´t know, Ler, or you look like an idiot.

The society Ron Paul envisions existed, in the 1800's United States.


Right Wing Libertarianism and Left Wing Libertarianism exist. Right-wing Libertarianism is the Ron Paul craze, where all people would be at whims of the market. Left-Wing Libertarianism is Anarchism, Libertarian Marxism, and other libertarian socialist ideology's.

No it didn´t. In the 1800´s, many civil rights (which libertarianism defends) didn´t existed. And there is no such thing as "right-wing" or "left-wing".

Money creation is the bane of all evil.

No, but most of his economics where there.

Yes there are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism

Thta is whre you take your ideas? Wikipedia?

Well though that information is known to most people, I am curious to which side you agree with and why?

Not at all, its just easy way to explain stuff to the people.

I think its better to explain it as collective control rather then state control, because there's lots of socialism that doesn't involve the state

How dare you insinuate that he would side with either. Pedro is a god-fearing man.

Liberarianism is not only about economics, LeninCat.

Is it about libraries?
Sorry, I couldn't resist being a jerk.

Every economic ideology, and sub-ideology insists that they are about more than just economics. Both socialists, capitalists and sub-ideologies of both insist that they are about personal-freedoms, liberty, equality, all of that - It's a pretty generic thing to say. At the end of the day though, an ideology is either economy based or social based, and American Libertarianism is primarily an economic-based ideology.