Favorite European Monarchs

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  1. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Otto Von Bismark
    Queen Elizabeth I
    Queen Victoria
    Charlemagne
    The Black Prince
    Henry V
    Henry VII
    Sultan Mehmet II
    Suleyman the Magnificent
    General Mosh, Jun 20, 2012
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    No napoleon! What is this blasphemy!
    slydessertfox, Jun 20, 2012
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    King John, because his incompetence led to the creation of the Magna Carta. I still prefer Cromwell though, I don't think much of monarchs.
    Epiccheesegrater, Jun 20, 2012
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    WHERE IS FREDRICK THE GREAT GODDAMNIT!
    Shisno, Jun 20, 2012
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    Suleiman was a magnificent bastard... Much like me. :3
    Ozan, Jun 21, 2012
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    No. You are a mobblaster.
    Shisno, Jun 21, 2012
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    Temporary set back.
    Ozan, Jun 21, 2012
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    They all tended to suck and oppress people. It's more choosing your dictator than favorite leader.
    Karakoran, Jun 21, 2012
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    Not a monarch, at least in my opinion.
    Not worthy. Or maybe just because I don't know all that much about him :p
    General Mosh, Jun 21, 2012
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    Frederick is far superior. He led small Prussia to a mighty victory over both Russia and Austria, the two most powerful European countries at the time.
    Shisno, Jun 21, 2012
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    Oh well. Hes not one of my favorites therefore he can't be on the list. Remember this isn't the best ones this is your favorites :p
    General Mosh, Jun 21, 2012
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    Don't be too naive, remember the Miracle of House Brandenburg. I wouldn't say he defeated Russia as God intervened.
    Ozan, Jun 21, 2012
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    Fuck you. You are a dumbass.
    Shisno, Jun 21, 2012
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    Am I wrong? Did the Russian monarch at the time not die before being replaced by a German who admired Frederick the Great so much he rushed to make peace with Prussia right as Russian troops stood at Berlin's door?
    Ozan, Jun 21, 2012
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    While true, it doesn't change the fact that Frederick with an average army of 30,000-40,000, held off armies of the two greatest empires in Europe, and survived. He beat the Austrians, he beat the Russians, he beat the French, and he beat the Swedes in the sense that he lasted the entire 7 years of war.
    Shisno, Jun 21, 2012
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    Napoleon beat the prussians, the Austrians, the pope, and he nearly beat the Russians and powmed the Spanish when there in person.
    slydessertfox, Jun 21, 2012
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    That is irrelevant to my debate with ozan.
    Shisno, Jun 21, 2012
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    Nonsense, it is relatively relevant. It shows a number of points.

    1. Napoleon was a skilled tactician and lead the French as if they meant to be win.
    2. Austria sucks at war.
    3. Frederick the Great was so great, he absorbed the greatness of the Prussians and hindered them for it.
    4. God hates the French and likes Prussia. Hence why Brandenburg was saved by a miracle and Napoleon was defeated by bad weather.
    5. Frederick wasn't as feared as Napoleon.
    Personally, I ADORE Frederick the Great. But if a man is going to lose, he is going to lose. He was saved by a miracle and probably would be a footnote in history if the Tsarina didn't die when she did. Little German dude who replaced her just happened to like Frederick enough to end the war.

    He was a great man, but he was also lucky.
    Ozan, Jun 22, 2012
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    Surely every great man in history is there partly because he was lucky?
    UtterlyImpeccable, Jun 22, 2012
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    crocve, Jun 22, 2012
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