Assange looks for asylum in Ecuador

@Spartacus

Every population that doesn't revolt deserves there own government, and their consequences.

Also i dont think he released too many doc's wich were too dangerous, mainly where the internet/other commcables run right?

Furthermore i still don't fully understand your paranoia, i don't think anyone is put in danger.

Simply because if you know what the enemy knows about you, however much it is, it is better than not knowing what your enemy knows, because then you don't know where the main risk is

Hur dur you 18 year old american anything you say is stupid hur dur!

This replying to my comment about how the info could cause countless deaths, really loos like that is what you wear talking about.

That still doesn't make sense. He hacked into classified files stole them and then released them. Those documents belonged to the government, so how could he possibly be finding stolen documents if the government were the ones who created them?

What are you referring to here?

Despite everyone's assumption that every classified document must be some dirty atrocity the government is trying to keep hidden away, the fact is that he relaeased hundreds of thousands of classified documents to everyone, without a single thought about who could be hurt by all that info being leaked or who would be able to use it for their own gain. It was irresponsible, selfish and narrow minded.

That's stupid. By that logic we should just tell everyone everything about ourselves including our weaknesses, just because " hey at least we know that they know".

No, the things you say aren't stupid because you are a 18 year old over patriotic american, you are an 18 year old over patriotic american because you say stupid things.... Don't get it backwards

And as you can clearly see, once you get your glasses on, is that in the first part of my sentence I am talkin' about the videos. I actually never stoped talking about them, since I already stated that the rest of your point didn't interest me oO Try to keep up!

1. He didn't "hack" anything, someone from within gave it to him.
2. Since he is not american, why should he care that they belong to a foreign government?
3. The last sentence makes me question your intelligence.....

No, i'm not saying tell them everything, wich is unless you americans are completly incapable, and then you do actually deserve it, not true, but it's bassically stuff that any terrorist etc. Would be able to find out on its own. Let's not be ignorant okay .

Also if you are patriotic you are actually quite close to being a bad person if you are perfect in all other ways, just sayin',

Wow. Great logic there.

Incidentally, this is the other guy I detest. Anti-American, yuroproud, anti-theist, massive hipster, and abuser extraordinaire of emoticons.

great response too...

Must be a hard life, getting furious about some guy on the internet, isn't it? (I put that in, just for you darling!)

As if that drivel deserves a response. People don't become patriotic Americans by saying stupid things.

I'm not mad at you, I just detest you. I loathe every fiber of your being.

I guess thats applied to me .

I love the fact that this forum is seriously split on the whole america thing, it seems the europeans just go lol wtf, and the americans rage about stuff. But that's what i've seen in just a week... I might be wrong, but i haven't seen a euro rage about anything so far.

But do you guys really agree with your gpvernment?

If the stupid things he says reek of patriotism, and he is an american, than yeah, it does.

You can't imagine how much I laugh every time you anser my posts man. It's so funny what a sad human beeing you are. I still love ya, man

If you're all the things I described, then yes it absolutely does.

I think it's more like a few yuros and convicts aspire to be polemicists, while the rest of the forums try discussing actual policy or world events.

What kind of question is that? How in the fuck are you going to try restricting something as broad as that into a binary question?

Fcuk knows, i was hoping on a yes so i could counter with a stupidity remark,

but actually im not like that, but i was the one using emoticons.

I'm just anti-rightwing gov. So nationality doesn't matter, i despise the tories just as much as the republicans.

Say what you like, but generally speaking defending your country all the time makes you look like a mindless moron. Not saying you do this, just saying this is what it makes people who do look retarded.

And i think it also has to do with the euro's don't want to run into the omgwtf patriot wall, so instead they decide to troll, cause atleast that's fun.

Me being patriotic has nothing to do with this(besides your apparent anti-american mindset, where anytime america is involved in anything you must be against them, so obviously I must be patriotic zealot because I don't agree with you.) I'm disagreeing with you because I find it irresponsible for someone to release countless classified files without a single thought for who would could be hurt(a point which you still have not addressed).

"Those fuckers" could of very well been addressing my sentence. Clarify next time.

1) Accepting something that you know is stolen is still a form of stealing(that's not even the issue I ave with his actions)
2) It was stolen Info and he released it(it's true it matters not where it was from, but again not my major objection to his actions).
3) The government collected and compiled the info and created the documents. The fact that it was stolen is not why I hate him, but the fact that he released all of those documents without a single thought about who or what they could affect makes him an irresponsible idiot.

I love american sports, I have many friends in the states in places like Charleston or Denver. I like some aspect of american culture. What I don't like is blind patriotism, which based on a recnet study from some american university is in no way different than pure nationalism. ( I am too lazy to get that out for you at 4 AM, sorry).
Again, I don't think you are a stupid patriotic zealot because I disagree with you, I think that way because you behave that way.

And you know he didn't think about it, and did it anyway how?

No, I wont....

He never admitted that he knew they were stolen. Also, the way wikileaks worked, the files were transmitted anonymously, so... yeah.

So, if tomorrow you were to get some documents from Iran, which could endanger Iranian soldiers or special agents, would you release them, or not?
You see, this is the double standard you got, and you can't deny it. You don't have a problem with humans getting endangered, you have a problem with americans getting endangered. That is exactly why you are stupid, american, over patriotic 18-year old.

I agree with mustachio:

Patriotism > Nationalism > (fear >) Hate > War > Death

Remember a little thing called WWI (and WWII too)

Hell yes. Not only is it practically beneficial, but it serves as a launching point for celebrity status. You'd definitely be able to write a book about it and make some serious cash.

Double standard? The fuck should I care about Iranian soldiers? Why on earth would their lives matter at all to me?

Furthermore, why would I ever forgo supporting the country I live in? Is my code of ethics going to maintain US hegemony? Are my morals going to reduce the cost of imported goods or contain authoritarian nightmares like China? Aside from the sheer hipster value it provides, opposing policy that's beneficial to the nation you live in, or supporting policy that's beneficial to another country, does absolutely nothing. Well, that's not true. It actually harms you as an individual. My security, in all senses of the word, is compromised by the decline of US hegemony.

Nationalism is stupid, sure. Supporting a nation because you were born there is dumb. Supporting a nation because you live there, however, is entirely rational. In fact, it's considerably more so than standing on some worthless principles.

I am not a "citizen of Earth." My security is not provided by humanity. It's provided by the United States of America.

I understand your point @Kali but it does make you, well a bad person

I never claimed to be a "good person," nor do I especially want that title.

I have to tell you, you are the worst kind of human I have ever seen....
But I still love you, man

Can you point where exactly I am being a mindless flag waving zealot?

I'm assuming he didn't. If he though be before and still did it, then he is even more of an asshole then I originally thought.

Oh really? You actually think that he thought that all of those classified documents were sent to him by the US government?
Anybody with common sense could figure that out for themselves.

No! why the hell would I release that to the general public? If anything I would give them to the US government not release it so any jackass that wanted to could see it and use it. The problem with this analogy, is for it to work, Assange would have to be Iranian citizen or official or something like that

Blah blah blah you're a stupid patriot blah blah blah.

But essentially, your saying assange was right to not care about american lives for he is not american.

Therefore he did nothing wrong.

Also spartacus, i am saying this as a semi-neutral, stfu. You're making yourself look rather stupid, wich is reflecting badly on america as a whole