Assange looks for asylum in Ecuador

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  1. Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    I'm not getting into a whole separate debate about the founding fathers, the fact remains that trading your freedoms for a little security is stupid and foolish.
    We did not fund the Taliban we funded Mujahadeen fighters. In fact the Taliban was founded by a bunch islamic students led by one Mujahadeen fighter in the 90's.
    Actually in the Cold War(you know a competetion bewtween the US and USSR over influence in the world) it kind was necessary because Russia was doing the same thing.


    Names of numerous informants and operatives working within Al queada that he released. Look it up yourself, I'm not going to wiki leaks and downloading the Afghan war diaries just so I can quote the info for you.
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    Why was it necesarry? Because what Russia was doing during the Cold War was support communist rebels if these rebels aproached them, they didnt install dictators just to piss the US off. Wich IS what the US did, no intention of making the country better or thempeople more free, just to piss off the USSR...
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    "Russia was simply doing everything they did because they wanted to make the world a bettter place, not like those goddamn imperialistic Americans". Yea Russia never had any imperialistic goals. Clearly installing puppet regimes in all the countries they "liberated" from the Germans was just because all those people asked them to right? And yea the invasion of Afghanistan was clearly just so they could help the afghans out, right?
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    It was definetly for other reasons then fuck you america
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    And America did what it did for other reasons besides fuck you Russia.
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    I remember reading an article about the Soviet-Afghan war some time ago, mind you it was bias and infavor of the reds but it was interesting none the less. I'll see if I can find it.
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    Actually, no
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    Well thanks for that unbeatable argument. You're right, the whole reason the Cold War started was because the US wanted to say fuck you to Russia.
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    Actually that is the reason...

    Because the USSR was for peacefull coexistence.
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    Are you trolling?
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    Are you undereducated?
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    Well, I can assure that most of the dictatorships in Latin America were for saying "fuck you Russia". Also, thank god there are barely a bunch of hipsters here.
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    You seriously think the USSR just wanted to coexist with another capitalist superpower? No that's retarded. After WWII you had two superpowers each with ideologies that directly apposed the other. It was inevitable that friction would come between these two nations. The Cold War did not start because the US was being mean to Russia(where the hell are you even getting that from?), The Cold War started when Russia and The Allies had different ideas on what to do with all those countries that were liberated from Germany(along with other disagreements), and progressed from there into a competition for power and influence between the US and it's allies and Russia and it's allies. Had nothing to do with us saying " hey guys let's piss of the ruskies", something childish like that is not what the Cold War was about and it's not what started it.
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    You win the brainwashed award
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    Well, here's the thing, the Cold War was both sides fault. Merica said, "fuck you reds". USSR said, "fuck you fatcats". And then everything they did was pretty much to counter each other with little thought of the effect it may eventually have.

    As for Assange and his files, Assange in my opinion should not have done that and he deserves to be punished, although thats not why the British were trying to get extradition. Hes accused of two counts of sexual assualt I believe. Of course, I'm sure its being taken into account that he leaked a whole hell of a lot of government files.

    @Kali, a hipster is not a person that looks down on others for holding different views or despises them for it or whatever your idiotic made up definition was. A hipster is someone that follows the latest trends. That's all. For instance, a hipster is the kind of person that starts wearing certain clothing after they see some celebrity wear it the night before. Not someone who is anti American. I don't know in what backwards ass school system you learned what a hipster was, but wherever it was they were very very wrong.
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    What's your totally fair and unbiased view on the causes and reasons behind the Cold War, then?
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    I think he meant to say that hipsters tend to be that way.

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