Capitalism vs. Socialism?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by JayJayGT, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. Kalalification Guest

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    Explain hermits.
  2. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    They're still conforming to a specific life style.
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    Right, but nonconformity is viewed not in the context of the nonconformist but in the context of society. Otherwise the concept of nonconformity makes no sense and has no purpose, but since the word was created it clearly does.
  4. Karakoran Well-Known Member

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    I guess you could say they've conformed to nonconformity.

    They've decided to "conform" to a lifestyle without any conformity. But there must be a some sort of conformity for there to even be a term describing them.
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    Skipped reading this whole thread and I will do that after I put my initial opinion,

    I don't begrudge socialist idea's. I understand that social healthcare and education help a society as a whole move forward. But total communism is comparable to slavery to me. Controlled economy is something I will never be able to accept because to be honest its like "Oh you have dreams and ambitions? Well we'll decide how much education you get, and then you can try to pursue those ambitions in your time off from the coal mine." Controlled economies just don't make sense to me, there's no point in making sure every individual is looked after if their individuality is in question. Just my opinion.

    I disagree. Socialist concepts are easily integrated into a capitalist society. The health care system up here in Canada is working out juuuust fine.





    The better ment of the poor and needy I agree should get some public funding but I do NOT agree with long term welfare. There are so many people in canada that will actually have children just so the government will pay for them to live . Scumbag leeches who do shit all for their nation and expect the rest of us to pay for their sorry ass are the most despicable scrubs I've ever heard of. Promoting their education is something I would put public funds towards.



    I don't believe there will EVER be a perfect way to govern anything. But at least in a capitalist establisment you have a CHANCE at going somewhere with your life, whereas in a full communist establishment you have zero chance too.


    Lenin Cat, seriously there are a MILLION ways that this kind of government could fall apart. Do you think the only way is via some greedy intellectual? Let's say that in part of this communist world there is a factory that produces canned goods. The factory is the main cause of employment in a small town, a river runs through the town. After a couple generations living in a communist world, education started to lose wind as there was no real reason to become a teacher if you were going to get no benefits and you could just work at the canned goods factory with everyone else in your small village. Let's say two main communities arise within the factory workers between the 30% of the population living on the north side of the river and the 70% living on the south side of the river over say, hunted game that was not being shared equally amoungst both communities. The northern community was bitter over the southern community consuming some of the canned goods as times were tough that year, further lowering the communities ability to trade with more distant communities. The northern communities had greater access to huntable meats and had no need to consume the canned goods, thus a rivalry occured.


    No matter how this story ends? Someone get's hurt . With no money in existance it puts you back to an era of hoarding resources and trade with other communities becomes difficult and rigged towards certain members of society. With no real government how can you restrict who has what? There is so many fucking holes in your plan ... How did you think you would manage international equality on resources?


    Let's see if they go a day without bitching about not having a computer. Seriously its just ridiculous that these people are even far left.
  6. joske Well-Known Member

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    Well capitalism (kinda) is quite good at making non-conformist life choices conformist while commercializing them. I had to study this in relation to hippy culture in the '60 and advertising, so as hippy culture becomes more popular you see more and more advertisements expressing "non-conformism" and how the '50 were dominated by conformity. And then in the '70, stuff that was seen as conformist in the '60 suddenly became non-conformist in the '70.
  7. AwsomeBoy60 New Member

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    I'm a mix of both Capitalism and Socialism. i like the idea of being able to own business's and whatnot, but believe there needs to be strict rules and regulations companies need to follow. especially when it comes to the well being of the workers and the environment. SOCIAL-CAPITALISM FTW!!! :lol:

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