Death Penalty

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by CoExIsTeNcE, May 18, 2011.

  1. CoExIsTeNcE LeonTrotsky in Disguse

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    Because it was asked for.

    Obvious topic. Discuss.
  2. PineappleJoe Well-Known Member

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    Death penalty is an easy way out send murderers and Rapists to siberia :x
  3. Demondaze Xenos Scum

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    Death penalty for some. Miniature American flags for others.
  5. 123Blazer New Member

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    Death Penalty can be found in Texas,Unfourtantly i live there -.- And you can have the penalty by getting Capital Murder Charges or Mass murder..

    I think that the Death Penalty is good but sometimes people are put to death for charges they didnt do..I heard it happened before on the news..
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    Here's one way to think about it that I don't support put it stays to principle.
    Pro-Life+No death penalty or Pro-Choice+Death Penalty.
  7. RonaldRaygun Futuristic Weapon Wielder/Commie Hunter

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    In principle, I am for the death penalty but only if it's well regulated. I don't think fashioning reasonable policy should be too hard.
    I propose more accountability in the system. Require a Governor (or some other high ranking public servant like a supreme court judge) to sign an approval for every execution and if an innocent person is executed they will be held accountable.

    I'm sure things won't be decided on a whim if the ass of the person who makes the decision is on the line.
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  9. RonaldRaygun Futuristic Weapon Wielder/Commie Hunter

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  10. Tychoflak Member

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    I don't like death penalties.

    I know some people have that eye for an eye thing, but honestly I think the Death Penalty lets people off the hook too easily.

    I like my murderers and rapists to suffer.

    Yeah you heard me. Killing them is too easy, and in the western world they try to do it in nice fast clean ways, even though there is some debate about that. I take myself out of that debate, cause we shouldn't be trying to kill them in the first place. We should be trying to extend their life so they can suffer more.

    I want a life penalty that MEANS life. You take a life, you give up a life. That sounds eye for an eye, and in some ways you could say it is. However I want these people to LIVE a miserable life. I want them on bare minimum rations. I want them in a cell with hard floors and no windows. I want them to feel pain, and think on their crime ALONE... for a long long time.

    It also has the benefit of them being alive in case there was a miscarriage of justice. Let's face it, we only want the guilty to pay. You can't bring back the dead.

    Executing them is just a way of saving money though. Cheaper to kill them than keep them.
    It is a non ideal world.
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    I am for a voluntary death penalty, also my main concern about executing a criminal is what if the person turns out to be innocent.
  12. 0bserver92 Grand King of Moderation

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    They pray to god to bring them back to life.
  13. Chelsea366 Retired Moderator

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    If someone is a mass murderer or something like that then they deserve the death penalty. Personally I agree with having the death penalty. The system will never be perfect, there will always be cases of innocents being convicted of things, it's true. But the death penalty needs to be there in my opinion.
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    Read my post
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    Don't like it. It might just be the Catholic in me, but I don't think it's useful as a deterrent (its main legal basis) and it costs a lot of taxpayer money. A whole hell of a lot more than life imprisonment.

    But if we're going to have it, I think the system we have in my state is a good model.
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    Could you elaborate on your state's system?
  17. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    The information on that is dubious at best...
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    I think it should be reserved mass murders and rapists etc. who are guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Because if even one innocent person dies, that is too many.
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    It's technically available as a punishment, but the system is set up to hold people on death row pretty much indefinitely.
    I can't remember the exact figures, but I remember debating it extensively in PFD. Information from both sides readily confirmed this fact, to the extent that it wasn't even a point of contention for the Pro team.
  20. pedro3131 Running the Show While the Big Guy's Gone

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    Prob cause you guys haven't taken any stat classes. a vast majority of the studies that show exorbitant figures include the costs incurred during incarceration into the calculus on what it costs to kill an inmate. Of course when you quantify it that way it's going to be more expensive. The only studies that really show an increased cost on the margins point to the expanded costs borne by the prosecution in proving guilt. To me that's a pretty welcomed cost, so I don't really see a problem with the economics of it

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