If they Soviets were the Victors in the Cold War

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  1. Sokol-1 Well-Known Member

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    How would Communism work in the 21st Century?, Would America be divided into states in the same manner that the Soviet Union was divided?, and being an atheist nation would many religious nations choose not to give in to the Soviet influence? What else would be different in this world if the Soviets were triumphant?
  2. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    Sounds like a good mod idea. I have no idea, by the way.
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    Holy Shit! you're right I really hope someone makes a Modern Day Scenario mod for Darkest Hour where the Soviet Union won the Cold War
  4. Ingvar Well-Known Member

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    Corrupted goverments would be overthrown,and communism would be changed in a better way?
    Maybe...
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    I think the US wouldn't collapse, I think Europe and/or the US would just become communist, but it wouldn't be split into different countries. Even if it would only be because there is (almost) no nationalist minority or movement in the US.
  6. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    The USA would not have to become communist or fall apart for the Soviet Union to have won the Cold War.
  7. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    I don't think anybody "won" the cold war, there was no war, primarily, the war was psychological, builting IBM's, but no warfare. The same goes for the American civil war, so much death, and the biggest turnout of it was to stop Africans from being used as slaves.

    I don't think anybody "won" there. Now, they're stuck with these giant missiles that are difficult to dispose of because of it's refined Uranium, and other products.
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    The Americans think they won it, because the Soviet Union collapsed.
  9. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    That's why these said "Americans" are idiots.

    Gorbachev destroyed the economy, leaving no-where to go.
    It wasn't the mass production of nuclear missiles that made the ebul Rushans say Uncle.
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    We wouldn't be here arguing about politics.
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    The soviet union did not want to fight the cold war they even wanted to join NATO when it was first formed. All they needed for victory was for the west to stop wanting to fight it.
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    I'm pretty sure Stalinism would of been the transition in the American system. Have it America, have the more authoritarian side of communism!

    I don't consider the United States of America victors in the Cold War, it was ultimately the collapse of another system which doesn't mean capitalism or democracy prevailed. If it was vice versa, i wouldn't view the American collapse a victory for socialism, nor would i say capitalism is a big failure, thus the system is no more, it would of (like socialism) taken a big blow.

    The Soviet Union would of still been here if the American system collaspsed, and most certainly the Cold War would of ended.

    Overall, it would of been a better world.
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    In my opinion the US didn't win, the USSR simply destroyed itself from the inside. If there was no Yeltsin or no glasnost things may have been different.
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    Will it? I doubt that. Not that I like the current world.
  15. Ingvar Well-Known Member

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    Well as I understood the Cold war in the military confrontations Soviets proved to be better than the Americans that is why they chose the economical way of wining the war,because soviet soldiers were far more experienced in combat than american.
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    Well if your enemy is destroyed you won.
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    If your enemy is destroyed by YOU you win. Soviets destroyed themselves. The US wasn't going to win all by itself.
  18. slydessertfox Total War Branch Head

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    Well the US is the only one of the two left standing so they won. If you are boxing and you opponent just all of a sudden collapses to the ground without you doing anything, does that not mean that you won the fight?
  19. General Mosh Citystates Founder!

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    No, it means you couldn't win and you the enemy simply forfeits.
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    This is nit picking. They managed to survive, that's the whole point.

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