Perceptions of lesbian vs homosexual acts

I was talking with several friends/acquaintances, but two are relevant, a male and a female. The male (who is straight, and yes I’m sure) tells us rather indifferently that he had kissed another guy at a party once, a short time ago. It didn’t go any further, and no alcohol was involved, it was a heat of the moment happening. I was rather indifferent as well, but my other friend, the girl, flips out a little bit. She asks him loudly “Are you gay? You can tell us you know. Are you sure you’re not gay?” and so on. She is convinced that he is homosexual but won’t admit it, when he really isn’t. Every other person in the conversation, male and female alike, reacts a tiny bit negatively, nervously shuffling and skeptical when my friend says that he is not gay. The issue is that the girl has female friends that are also straight, but have kissed other girls at parties several times. I’m pretty sure the same can be said for a couple of the other girls in the conversation, but I don’t know them that well. When the guy was asked why he did it, he said it was a combination of experimentation, fun and opportunity. The same kind of thing a straight girl says when she kisses another girl at a party, but in that case the girls are open-minded, free spirited, fun, adventurous etc. Here though, everyone was looking at my friend as though he was a weirdo. I should point out that he is 17 and quite popular and good looking.

It is pretty much okay/socially acceptable for straight girls to kiss other girls. Why is there a huge change when it comes to guys?

Its our culture. If it was like ancient Greece at a party and that happened nobody would give a shit.

Yeah well it shouldn't be. Simply put there should be no double standard there but there is, for sure. I do not think homosexuality, bisexuality or bicuriosity should be considered weird and I don't think anyone should be treated like he was, it's just wrong to do that. They are hypocrites and endorse double standards.

I agree. I don't know how this is going to change but it needs to. I think it already is, albeit very slowly. Male homosexuals have always predominantly been portrayed in entertainment as plain bizarre and weird, fashionistas who can't walk properly. Lesbians are predominantly portrayed as sex objects or as strong willed characters. I don't know if shows like Modern Family are helping or harming this cause, they gays are accepted, but only because people laugh at them.

And I need to stop making the error that homosexual=male-male relationships when it can be both genders.

I don't think anyone is 100% straight. I seriously doubt it's that black and white.

BUT your friend probably is gay. WOOO.

Anyway yeah most gay guys I know go through several girlfriends before popping out of the closet so you'd be surprised how in denial they can be . If he's not gay there's no problem if he kissed a guy though. I've done that before. Was more of a drunken dare thing though.

Straight girls do it to appear more attractive to men. They don't actually harbor any affection towards the smooch recipient. They just do it as a means of attracting men. That is why there are "bisexual" girls. They aren't actually "bisexual". They just claim to be bisexual so males get the hint that they are sexually promiscuous. When alcohol is involved, women will do very stupid shit to attract males, even if that means coming off as a raging lesbian. However, it is treated differently in our society, mostly because of the availability of pornography.

Your friend is most probably homosexual. No straight man in his right mind would go that far with an "experiment". Though I suppose he could go over the line while under the influence. Your female friend is projecting her feelings on to him, because she is obviously a rampaging slut. That is where the problem lies. Women should not be allowed to show themselves off like complete sluts. We need to turn back the clock with this one and really restrict women's rights, because as it stands, we are at a disadvantage because of these feminazis who think this ridiculous shit is okay.

You know, your friend might as well be bisexual. Just because he kissed another dude doesn't instantly mean he isn't attracted to women.

Yes you are 100% right. Cultures can change fortunately

ask him who won project runway last year, if he answers correctly then he's Bi.

LOL.

Homosexuality is not socially accepted yet. Because of advanced communication, people are surprised to find out that many people are homosexual or bisexual. That being said, now that homosexual is more "present" it is slowly being integrated into society. In the next 50 years, a situation like what happened to your friend would be normal.

This reminds me if my school. Over the summer I was talking with a guy who graduated a few years ago, and he said to me, out of the blue, "Hey, I hear a lot of the girls there are bisexual." (Though in a cruder fashion.) I though about it as said, "Yes, now that you mention it." This conversation got me thinking about just how many girls claim to be bi, but how many, let's say, "seal the deal". It is a fad for most, who see it as empowering or just something to do to piss off the parents. But, having been friends with those who have gone the distance, I can say that they represent a small percent of those who claim bi-sexuality.

My point being that, at least in the US, it is more socially palatable for girls to have homosexual feelings then guys, due to the notion of choice vs genetics (or whatever form of inevitable you wish to use). Many seem to think that if a boy expresses homosexual desires he is wired for that, and thus has and always will be gay, while if a girl commits similar action she is "experimenting". I take no side on this debate, having not concluded my own opinions on the matter. Just an observation.

I'll hesitantly agree with that statement.

And if he's willing do any other sexual act?

He's always been attracted to girls and has been hitting on/dating only girls for years. He's currently in a loving relationship with a girl for almost a year. But he briefly kisses another guy, once, in a party atmosphere, and people here think he's gay or bi. Right.

Just so people know, we're not in a fundamentalist church in Georgia or something. Our school is an all boys school, and both the school and the students are VERY accepting of homosexuals. In fact, the school has received international recognition for exactly this. We have student run societies that promote homosexual awareness and acceptance, and provide help to other students who are confused with their sexuality. There really is no reason not to "come out of the closet". On the contrary, there are perks; gays are very popular with other students and teachers, and humorously, the teachers are more relaxed with the uniform code.

Oh, no, I never said he definitely is, but there's still the possibility that he found out only recently or something. Of course, he might as well have been fucking around.

I disagree. By that standard a considerable amount of people could be considered asexual by virtue of their unwillingness to perform oral sex.

Or you need to clean down under more often.