professional army VS compulsory military service for all

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  1. thelistener Well-Known Member

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    so yea what do you guys think is the better way to go? which one is in your country?
    in my opinion professional army ftw. they whant to go to the army= better morale, better equipment, better training

    right now in finland we have military service compulsory for all males (we have one of the largest armies in Europe in europe 300000) but we can not afford modern weapons.
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    Why is it that that only a professional army can have the best gear? And which group would a voluntary militia fall into?
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    professional army VS compulsory military service for al

    I must say I hate compulsory service, but I think that Professional military has a large edge in most fields but one, manpower. A hell of a lot less people will sign up when someone isn't putting a legal book on their left leg...
    I understand this isn't the medieval era, but men still win wars right?
    Manpower matters, but much less, but, it still matters.
    (Thank god my English teacher isn't on these forums, she was a real bitch about commas...)
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    well of course compulsory army can have good gear it's just that its freaking expensive :D
    so in this economy crisis, i think professional army is better
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    well of course manpower matters, but small but a effective army can win a larger army with old equipment, bad training etc etc
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    Compulsory army because there less likely to open fire on protestors or rioters when ordered too.
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    a small compulsory army, with a few professional branches. It's not like youre going to get invaded unless you live in the middle east.
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    Awesome, finally other member from Finland, who is not Russian! (Maybe?)

    We dont have an "army". We have defence forces and special forces. Defence force is closes thing that comes to an army and it mainly consists of officers, maintainance staff, radar people etc. Then we have Special Forces and they are the ones who go to foreign countires, like Afghanistan. How ever, would war occur we have aprox. 350 000 men in reserves.

    I like the things are right now and reduce military spending by allot. We spend 7th most money on military out of european countries based on GDP (1.5%)


    We need no military other than the defence forces we have now and special forces to send out to international missions. Conscription is total waste of money that could be spend much better elsewhere (health care)
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    professional army VS compulsory military service for al

    Two-tier denzienship offers an interesting mix of compulsory and proffesional armies.

    I would say proffessional is better, it is better trained and permament so the are constantly drilling, excersising etc. In two tier denzienship both exist. Denziens or Citizens employed in the proffesional Armed forces but also those serving their term-of-service who choose to do so in the armed forces make up "Citizens Regiments."

    Currently Britian has a very proffesional and effective volunteer army; which I like. No one should be forced into something they don't want.
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    You can choose civil service if you want. Oh and sure standing army is much more efficient, but it bleeds you dry if you wont use it.
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    Limited compulsory service isn't too bad. Aside from having a small pool of reserves you can also bring some discipline and life experience (how many 19-20 year olds even know how to iron their own shirts anymore?!).

    So yea, I'd go with a small but highly professional army like the British are/were doing and have like 2 years of service for everyone age 19 and above (except, of course, if you morally object or whatever).
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    My personal model is a small professional Special Forces unit that specializes in both small scale operations and training militia, a small (but well equipped) professional Navy, a volunteer air militia, and a professional civilian sector that handles things like drone operations, radar surveillance, equipment maintenance, operating the missile shield, ect.
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    It depends on what you would class as "small", but I would route for this too. Ideally we want to be spending as little as possible on the armed forces but just enough to ensure that they are carrying out their job sufficiently.
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    In terms of the Navy: It's getting to the point where a single super carrier can lock down a large sector of ocean, so it wouldn't have to be that big.
    The special forces would like a mix of SEAL and Green Beret. They would be able to carry out surgical operations, but they wouldn't have to be that big as they aren't the main fighting force. The idea is basically that every now and then the special forces unit gathers up local volunteers and they spend some time training, ideally after a while this volunteer militia would start to become more like a professional defense force.
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    Compulsory service is slavery.
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    Singapore has a compulsory army and we have the most advance military and largest air force in South East Asia.
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    Non-compulsory. They sign up so they must believe in it.
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    Link is correct.
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    I just found out I have to be signed up for the draft to get federal money for college, lol. I don't care because I'd have to do it anyway.
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    Professional is by far the better option. If you have a volunteer soldier who actually belives in what he is doing will fight better then a drafted soldier who may have no desire at all to fight, not to metion the better training and equipment.

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