Reviving and Reforming the NKVD

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  1. Chives Newest Member

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    These last few months here on the forum have been quite shaky and in some cases out ridiculous and stupid, I'm not claiming to be above these things, because I was a part of and even caused a lot of it.

    This thread isn't about complaining about our problems, or trying to find the root of them.

    Personally, I blame the obvious stagnation of the community for much of the trouble, but again, this isn't about what our problems are, it's more accurately about moving past them and on to better things.

    Namely, I speak of reviving and reforming the old NKVD clan.

    I can't speak for the old members of the gaming clan, nor can I call myself much of a clan gamer.
    This means I cannot and will not be the one to revive the clan, but for this, I'm sending an open call to any forum member who will stand up and take the initiative.
    As I said, I was never a part of the gaming clan, so I cannot say what exactly it was that caused the clan to die, but from where I stand, it seems like the rigid structure of the clans was a big problem, especially for branches with only three or four people playing them.

    I say again, I've never been a clan gamer, so I cannot speak of how exactly to fix the gaming clan, or how it should be run if revived and reformed. I can however speak of expanding the NKVD.

    As a community (minus Stalin himself), we have a small branch reaching out into YouTube. We have numerous members with small followings on YouTube and we also have an inactive NKVD page.

    Why not use these members on YouTube and the NKVD page to organize ourselves into a more effective group?

    In a manner similar to Machinima, we could have members of this group be contributors on the NKVD page and inherently not only promote their own pages, but also the forum itself.


    This forum was built off of the following of JosefVStalin, and he's done a magnificent job thus far. However, looking at the ever so slow stagnation of the community, it almost resembles Atlas holding the world on his shoulders as it sinks down upon him.

    We, as the world, must grow our own arms and our own legs and help Atlas hold the world high.

    Extending our apparatuses will collectively make us stronger as a community and shield us from this decay we suffer.

    So what do you say?
    Isn't it time stand up and move forward?
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    Tribunal support alone is enough to validate an initiative.
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    I already stated I support it so now all we need is someone who is dedicated.

    @UnholyKnight800 what do you think? We talked about this a while ago.
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    Nope. I'm more worried about school at the moment.
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    As am I. We could ask card or another member, got anyone in mind chives?
  7. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    Chives, I think you're the only person we have that could actually run the NKVD. I don't know anybody on these forums more active, more productive and more of a leader figure than you. It's either you or Ler, friend.

    Of course, we could always go to splitting the NKVD into three seperate, but still one whole, groups. One for PS3, Xbox360 and PC. But I believe we've tried that before, and it didn't work out, due to us being such a tiny community and not participating and being active within the clan.

    Maybe we should wait this out until Stalin gets some new blood in the website. The only things we can do as of now, is tell our friends about the site and encourage them to sign up to the forums to participate in the NKVD clan.
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    I won't turn away praise, but I simply cannot lead the gaming clan, it's a matter of material and experience.
    I can and will however lead the YouTube initiative.

    I don't think that the YouTube Initiative and the gaming clan should be separate entities either, so inherently, they'll need something at the root holding the branches together. I won't turn down that duty, but once again I say, I cannot lead the gaming clan, someone else must stand up and take the initiative.


    I don't think the clan should be divided in that manner, as you said, we're a small community, we should probably start out as just a simple gaming clan, branching out game by game, rather than by platform.

    While I don't have the slightest doubt that Stalin is capable of further expanding our community, I'm suggesting that we do more than just plant our feet and have him drag us, I'm saying we start walking with him and help develop the community.

    No one in particular, but anyone who's willing and able should try.
  9. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    Perhaps we can have a person leading the clan on each console and website. We could have a vote, just like we do with Tribunes on the forums, for the leaders of each branch. (Xbox Branch, PS3 Branch, YouTube Branch, etc.)

    The splitting of power, as mentioned above in my post, should not rule out this idea but provide stability to it. We will be leading on one particular platform so that we may organize and play quickly.
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    I'd love to be in the clan, but I'm in the UK which rules me out of most of this. Can I make a suggestion though? I think that the NKVD clan should be kept to no larger than 3 games. Really focus the community. I think maybe TF2, StarCraft 2 & another. I then think the whole NKVD forum should be deleted and replaced with the three games. There should be an NKVD chair elected in each of the three games.
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  12. Chives Newest Member

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    I'm not understanding the benefit of dividing based on platforms over individual games.

    It just seems like that would create an over-bureaucratic system.
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  13. BattalionOfRed Mr. Fred Battaliono

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    Maybe it would turn out that way, but we could still use this. We need people to provide input, and then we must make a move, rather than not making any move at all.
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    Ler is far too mentally unstable to ever lead anything.
    There isn't anyone on these forums who is even remotely good at starcraft 2. I'm not even in masters league, but jesus christ, you guys make me look like Flash.
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    I'm in Gold!

    (Disclaimer: I'm still pretty shit though.)
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    Here's a potential organization of the NKVD.
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    Interesting
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    The problem is that the NKVD has no goals. Fuck, we just throw people at World of Tanks or SC2 and tell them to fly. Here's how you set us into a game:

    1. Someone mentions it.
    2. Some guys check it out.
    3. Some guys build up a little.
    4. Some big-wig in the clan says to go do it officially.
    5. Recruits from the actual NKVD join in, hopefully swelling numbers.
    6. They build a real ground base.
    7. A few people who really like the game stay and manage it (building it up as well via recruitment of actual players and such). The rest leave.
    8. People who join that game after the actual NKVD's exodus are referred to the actual NKVD and some will join, thus increasing the NKVD.

    Rinse and repeat. We basically develop each game to be a massive farm for the NKVD to recruit soldiers on.

    Let me tell you a story, when I was like 11 I used to play Club Penguin. Amazingly, people had come up with a complex order of how to do things. There were a set of "Armies" (ranging in size from 2 to 200 people) and each army had a site. Every army was founded by a leader who chose how things were managed governmentally (basically they were all Dictatorships except for 2 Democracies). Every leader would also create ranks.

    These ranks would be Top-Down from Leader to Recruit. By being active in the army, showing skill, and otherwise, people gained ranks and thus more power in the army. Ideally, it would lead to skilled active people at the top and less active and less skilled people at the bottom. A meritocracy.

    Other than that, they had a form of instant messaging they would refer to as Chats. During fights between the armies they would use the chats as a form of communication to deliver orders and otherwise in combat. It led to people in huge numbers doing complex tactics to spite being 9.

    I could go into detail more about the Geopolitics, Larger Media, and Warfare of Club Penguin, but that's beside the point. The point is that, really, not many of you seem to know two shits on how to lead a clan. And the few that do don't care enough. I would step up for such a role, but I'm in the latter boat.
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    You don't need a disclaimer. Being in gold is s synonymous with being shit.
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