The Federalist Papers

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  1. LeonTrotsky Well-Known Member

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    For those of you who don't know, they were a series of essays to promote the ratification of the American Constitution at the state conventions. To put it simply: they are the greatest arguments for anything ever. Here are probably the most notable ones:

    #10
    http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm

    #51
    http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa51.htm

    10 deals mainly with how factions will be dealt with under the Constitution, and 51 deals with checks and balances and how the gov will keep the power of the majority while protecting the liberty of the minority.
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    This strongly reminds me of the Bill of Rights....
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    Really, the Bill was pushed for by those who did not want the Constitution ratified.
  4. The Shaw Rawnald Gregory Erickson the Second

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    Really? This is nothing like the bill of rights.
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    If it reminds you of the Constitution on the other hand...
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    The Bill of Rights is in the Constitution!
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    Not initially.
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    I thought they made the constitution and added the Bill of Rights.
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    The bill of rights is the first ten amendments, so yes, they were added to the constitution later.
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    The Bill of Rights was added very soon after though! Checks and balances was covered under the Bill of Rights, by the way.
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    No, checks and balances were covered in the Constitution. The Bill of Rights was just a written guarantee of certain liberties. Originally, the framers thought that the Constitution adequately protected the liberty of citizens, but the state ratification conventions wanted a written Bill of Rights like in their own state constitutions.
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    Well, i don't know, all I know is this is like the Constitution's biggest ideals laid out in a nutshell.
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    Well, i don't know, all I know is this is like the Constitution's biggest ideals laid out in a nutshell.[/quote:1wl72cs7]

    They're in now so I guess it is an honest mistake.
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    For the record the federalist papers also talked about the bill of rights because a lot of states didn't want to ratify the constitution without some sort of guarantee that the BOR would be included.
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    Then why wasn't the Bill of Rights just added in the first place?
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    Those who wrote it thought that it did enough to protect people's liberties.
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    But aren't those who wrote it also the ones that wrote the Bill of Rights?
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    But aren't those who wrote it also the ones that wrote the Bill of Rights?[/quote:2djakvi2]

    Yes. But some of them did not think it was necessary and others did. So it was promised but written in latter.
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    Oh well, it will forever confuse and perplex young kids going through their civics classes :roll: .

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