Because tipping in and of itself is a slippery slope argument. There is no reason not to tip every employee you met if you are going to tip just waiters. Better to just tip on one at all.
They're not being paid less than minimum wage. They are being paid at minimum wage for tipped jobs as defined by the Federal Minimum Wage Act. And the argument that because something is illegal in your country somehow makes it illegal and immoral in objective reality is absolutely silly. It's a longstanding cultural practice here in the States. That's why it's even enshrined in the law in the first place. We've done it this way for over a century, hell probably longer. It's not a worse way of doing things, it's just a different way of doing them.
The thing is though, I know some waiters who have made more in one night in tips then they would in a week of minimum wage pay. And if they are not getting paid minimum wage you could help them out with a tip.
I highly doubt that we will be rid of tipping anytime soon. I can't see waiters and waitresses even wanting to be rid of it. Most make significantly more from tips than they would making minimum wage.
I didn't say calling out an inequality is silly, I said that what you actually said: "It's illegal here to be paid less than minimum wage. So I see what your businesses are doing as both illegal and immoral." is extremely silly because that argument holds no water at all. I can apply this to Iran and suddenly being homosexual is an objectively immoral and illegal thing.
I guess they are tipped because they are basically puttig themselves on a socially lower level and make less for it, so tipping makes up for it. I see no problem considering some waiters can make like $250 a night. Not even an upscale resturant.
Sadly for you it does. Because it is immoral because it is an inequality, and ignoring that is extremely absurd.
It's not because the tips usually add up to make up for their less pay, so by you not tipping you help this imagined inequality.
Have you even been keeping up with the conversation, my point is that if we are going to tip waiters then we should tip everyone. The inequality is not that the waiters are paid less.
Have you never heard of the expression "When in Rome do as the Romans do," or are you just arguing for the sake of argument?
Then take the initiative and tip everyone. And put yourselves in a waiters shoes. Its a difficult job, dealing with assholes all the time. How would you feel if someone did not practice the cultural custom of tipping.
I agree entirely, and as we had conversation a while ago: These people are paid to their work and we must then give them cash for it insted of their employers? Lucy did say that they get paid like 2€/ hour but that brings us to Stalins point. I'm glad I dont have to take part in this madness.
No one forces you to do anything. It's a US tradition, I know it's different than what you guys do in Canada and Finland, but it's not some force for evil. Quite frankly they're better off for the system we've got, and people get to feel good about tipping. AND it's entirely voluntary. If you don't want to tip, then DON'T. But leave the rest of us alone, we quite like our traditions.
If tips are immoral, then so are promotions: They're work incentives. Good work=promotion/ Good service=tip.
Here we dont tip at all to anyone ever. I'm not saying its evil, just something that is just pointless. I dont feel good for tipping, but I feel even worse if I wont. (In countiries where that is tradition)
