Why President Obama sucks

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  1. crocve Well-Known Member

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    Just wanted to give some points why Obama sucks. Fortunately, they are not all.
    Here are some (if there is more, please post more):

    He reauthorized the Patriot Act.

    Signed the NDAA to allow indefiinite detention of US citizens

    Expanded the War on Terror

    Expanded the War on Drugs

    Ordered the killling of US citizen withouth a due proscess (Anwar al-Aulaqi)

    Proceeded with warrantless spying on US citizens

    Tripled the number of US troops in Afghanistan

    Defended the TSA´s naked body scanners and patdowns

    Attempted to negotiate a deal to keep US troops in Iraq

    Government prosecuted whisteblowers for leaking state secrets

    Dismissed lawsuits brought by civil liberties organizations

    Defended the torture of Wikileaks source, Bradley Manning

    Launched an undeclared drone war on several nations

    Broke promise to close Guantanamo Bay

    Blocked Publication of Photos of U.S. Soldiers Abusing Prisoners

    His economic policies didn´t brought prosperity at all, and even endured the economic crysis
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    Thanks. But, what was the point of this thread?
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  3. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    While the point of the thread is debatable and awaits trial I will carry on.

    He is a bad president. He is arguably worse than Bush! But you know whats sad. The Republicans are NO better. All of them have some massive Achilles Heel. Romney is a flip flopping Vulture Capitalist, Gingrich is a man whore who wants to turn the Moon into a state, Ron Paul is questionably racist and thinks Iran would be fine with a nuke, and Santorum is a ear marks loving homo hater. There was only two candidate better than Barrack(Perry and Huntsman) and he is gone so Barrack needs to stay for 4 more years.

    4 years of a horrid Democratic President>8 years of a crazy horrid Republican President.
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    He reauthorized the Patriot Act.

    Signed the NDAA to allow indefiinite detention of US citizens

    He also managed to kill off most of Al-Quaeda;s top leaders.

    That in no way makes him suck.
    Who if Im not mistaken was an Al Quaeda leader after Bin Laden died.


    And also negotiated a deal to bring them home by 2014.

    And this is bad?
    But got them out by the end of the year which is pretty impressive.


    Like?
    Just because he didnt close it yet doesnt mean he wont close it.
    So this makes him bad how?
    We are showing signs of recovery. The recession was gonna get worse no matter who was in power.
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  5. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Part of me thinks the GOP gave us such bad candidates so they would loose and Obama would continue to take the rap for the recession. Maybe that is why they are throwing there weight behind Romney, the least likely one to beat Obama. I agree with you sir.
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    We would be doing better if the Republicans in Congress were not o an "If hes for it were against it even if we normally support it policy"
  7. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    They fail to realize Obama is more Conservative than Mitt Romney at times.
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    And that universal healthcare is good, and that Obama can just as easily play the "its their fault card" as they think they are gonna play it. Except he's actually telling the truth.
  9. RickPerryLover strawberries oh sweet Jesus strawberries

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    Oh Obama, he isn't as bad as most say. That doesn't mean he isn't bad, but he isn't the Anti-Christ most paint him as.
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    Wow.. I completely agree with the OP.
    That being said, and unfortunately, Obama is the lesser evil here. If he doesn't get in, somebody worse will.
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    Yes yes, a million times yes. These are words to follow America!
  12. crocve Well-Known Member

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    No, Obama is not a lesser evil. Ron Paul is better then him, and he is not racist.

    And even if he was a "lesser evil", that doesn´t mean that he is not bad or that other candidates (independents or from other political parties, who the americans should get more attention, instead of always getting stucked on the two-party system which controlls the country) would not be better candidates then him.

    About Iraq, Obama promised that he would retire the troops in a certain amount of time (14 months I think, after he got into the presidency), something that did not happened, not forgetting that he tried a deal to maintain the troops.

    Is amazing how suddenly so much of a radical he became when the OWS movement appeared and now is saying that is going to raise taxes to the rich, which is bad, because no taxes should be raised, ever. Taxes are always something that is a prejudice to the economy, because the government takes money that could be used to raise economic prosperity.

    I think that Obama was right whe he said America needed change................... change for the worst.
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    And Obama is racist?
    Name one candidate other than Ron Paul who you think is better than him.
    Guess what. He still got us out.


    Why should we not raise taxes on the rich? When the rich pay less taxes than the average American, the system is fucked up. The government, every government needs taxes to operate efficiently. You know why the Articles of Confederation was such a failure? Because, among other things, the government had no way of collecting money, so it was broke and could not do shit.
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    He didn't do that. The armed forces did that. Obama didn't do shit besides authorize the execution. Even the planning of the operation was done in the Bush Administration.

    It is when its a massive waste of money, which it has been.

    That doesn't make it ok to kill American citizens, or anyone really, without proof or a fair trial. Killing without a fair trial is the stuff of authoritarianism.

    Again, doesn't make it ok when he promised to end the war.

    Yes, its a massive violation of privacy and freedom

    Even though we still have at least 50,000 troops there. He did bring the majority of them home but the fact that he initially tried to send more means he was only doing it because he promised to and he had no other option.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/08/us-pakistan-drone-idUSTRE81708520120208
    Just one example

    His term is almost up, he won't be closing it. And his campaign promises from 2008 were supposed to be done by 2012. Not completing them, even if he gets reelected, means he failed.

    Yes, its violating Freedom of the Press

    The economy is slowly crawling back to normalcy because that's how an economy works, in cycles. His policies exasperate the recession by throwing money (tax payer money) down a fiery hole. As a Ron Paul supporter, you should probably know just how bad the economic policies of the Democrats and Republicans are. I could recommend a book to you if you want. Its about $20 hardback and it shows how an economy runs.
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    Better than any Republican.(yes, even Ron Paul)
    And as long as you stick with the current voting system you're going to have this problem.
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    I cant really argue with you on the other stuff but the dude was a registered terrorist who was preaching anti-America rhetoric, was Bin Laden's inspiration, was a major player in 9/11, and was the leader of Al Qaeda. What did you want us to do, capture him? When you have an opportunity to take down the leader of Al Qaeda, you don't turn that opportunity down just because he was a US citizen.
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    I see a few flaws * Note that I did not reply to all of them

    He brought the troops home and killed osama.

    Is this a bad thing?

    lolwut?

    Uhhh patdowns and body scanners dont do any damage and help protect people

    When? Last I checked 99% of democrats wanted troops out of Iraq

    What do mean by Undeclared Drone War and I guess by several nations I guess you mean Iraq?

    Broke promise to close Guantanamo Bay [/quote]

    quote="crocve, post: 196258, member: 2079"] Well is it bad to have a navy base right next to a communist country that's goverment hates us?
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    No matter the crime, there needs to be a trial. Even Hitler would have had a trial had he not killed himself.
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    So if there was no way they could capture him and give him a trial you would say leave him alone and let him plot to kill more civilians? Makes perfect sense.
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    Obama is the Devil-We-Know, at this point.

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