9/11, time to forget?

The entire arguement we're trying to make here is to say that we should not forget 9/11, as big an effect as it had on the U.S. today. We're not talking about Iraq, we're talking about 9/11.

Once again, when you know civilians are going to die, that should give you enough reason to maybe find another way to stop these attacks?

Well when a terrorist launches a passenger plane into a civilian target in one of the largest cities in the world, what do you think the reaction will be? But yeah, I agree that is blown a little out of proportion.

I know. i was saying that the gov't used 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq.

Also, i don't think we should forget it. i think we should just move on.

Well ever since OBL was killed, the whole point of us being in Afghanistan is gone. I don't care if Afghanistan isn't ready for us to leave, the country hates our guts. I believe that most Americans blow 9/11 way out of proportion, as an act that should justify us invading sovereign countries resulting in the deaths of many civilians. And for us to continue to blow it out of proportion now that the main perpetrator of it, OBL, is dead, then there is no reason to to remember it in terms of invading other countries b/c we think Al Queda is there. Yes, we won't forget those who died, and we won't forget the people who perpetrated it, but we should just remember it, not take any more action over it.

Well said.

I live in an area of the USA where many families lost loved ones. In fact I currently know one of those families they lost their son in the attacks. It destroyed their lives the mother is an achoholic and the father has passed away. It is hard to say let's forget somthing like this when thousands of inocent people died because terrorists believed that America was essentially evil and that all of it's people are the minions of hell. I do not believe the slaughtering of inocent civilians should be forgiven by the United States until every last person who had anything to do with it is brought up in front up a firing squad and executed. That may sound harsh but I dont know what else to say about it. Also on the topic of Bush he was a bad leader who was easily manipulated he couldn't deal with the combo of Rumsfeld and Chenney and therefor alot of his decisons were actoully there ideas. Iraq was a big mistake that should not of happened it did happen though almost behind congress's back and those who did know about it were ill informed the report the CIA made was completely false and the American public was lied to it was a black mark on American history

I think, that at the time we went into Iraq, the rationale for going was that Iraq might have something to do with 9/11. In my opinion, it was really for these two reasons: 1, we wanted to get rid of Saddam. We had made the mistake of not getting rid of him the first time, and we wanted to finish the job. 2, we wanted to establish a democracy in the middle east, and once everyone saw the "benefits", democracy would spread. Obviously, this was very naive.
However, this is just my opinion.

I am glad we are out of Iraq now I now many Americans want to pull of Afaghanistan but in truth we cant the government there is still fragile and I do believe that in a year or two from now we should be able to pull out but we must not and connot pull out of there until corruption is down and it looks like the government there can support itself.

I would agree with that. Though, the way things are getting out of hand over there, the sooner we leave, the better.

I just want us to pull out this year, now 2014. Afghanistan isn't even a country, it is just tribes, and it is divided beyond that to religion, the sects of Muslim, and ethnicity. The region has always been unstable, and us trying to fix it is silly. A 2014 departure is just not for our benefit. The Russians and the Brits already tried controlling Afghanistan and it didn't work out, so what makes us think it will work out.

We need to pull out and let the Afghans run their own damn country and deal with their own problems.

I can agree with that but as long as there are Republicans that is not going to happen. Also through all the folleys of the Bush administration we have created many enemies there according the the New York times the Afghani army totals around 345,000 troops. It's army is fine at this point I believe kill/capture has been handed over to there army. The Afghani people have to decide they want to have a stable country though they must decide to participate in elections and to get over what seperates them. Afghanistan could be a beacon of hope in the middle east that isn't as contreversial as Isreal. They must decide if the want that though. Once they decide that question we should either pull out or stay there.

From the Republicans point of view: OBAMA AIN"T PULLIN OUT FAST ENOUGH!!!! THAT ASSHOLE IS GETTING OUR MEN KILLED!!

Obama pulls out faster: OBAMA IS AN IDIOT!!! WHY ON EARTH WOULD HE PULL OUT AND LET AFGHANISTAN DESTROY ITSELF?!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ASSHOLE DOING PULLING OUR MEN OUT TOO QUICK RIGHT WHEN WE WERE ABOUT TO WIN! HE OBVIOUSLY HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S DOING!!!

At this point, Republicans could care less about America and more about Obama doing something that in their stupid minds is wrong.

Obama could do exactly what they want him to do. (which he has done at times) and they would still go against what he does just for the fun of it.

Exactly.

That's just politics. Both parties do it. The Democrats did it when Bush was in office.

The Republicans cant seem to get anything right on foriegn politics it is a little funny seeing there frustration.

That is true but the difference is Bush was diffenitly wrong he should be tried for war crimes.