Afghanistan Outrage

I know that but it is still no better. No one deserves to die no matter the circumstance.

Hitler?

No, by saying LIKE their modus operandi, I mean it happens so often that it's as if this is their intention. But even though it definitely has been in the past, I doubt this shooting was ordered. And I don't know where you got those figures, it's nothing like what I've heard.

Even Hitler doesn't deserve it.

LOL

He is nothing. They must make an example of him.

So just because he means nothing we should go down the morally wrong path make an example out of him?

The CURRENT US military will not put anyone to death. Although I was wrong and I believe they do have a death penalty, they haven't used it in a long time.

Based on the belief that murder is wrong and beyond what a human should do, he has become little more than an animal.
Therefore, it is fate that he be deemed rabid an put down.

But while I support the death penalty for him, this sentence is too light, too fleeting for his crime. But the structure to make him suffer as he should does not exist, nor does the stomach in the US psyche.

So what? You suggest torturing him on top of killing him? That's the only thing that I can think of that would really be worse. Or do you have something else in mind?

Oh well most of these people believed he was just a scapegoat, and I agree. I thought it implied the public was ok with it or something.

For his crimes, social isolation.
A cold, dark cell in the depths of the deepest dungeon cannot hope to grace the surface of such a punishment.
No hope for redemption for him, for he has betrayed all that which his people seek to become.

Well that isn't quite what I had in mind when you said "it is fate that he be deemed rabid an put down." This would be a pretty acceptable punishment in my view and I'm pretty sure the "structure to make him suffer as he should" does in fact exist, solitary confinement is what it's called. I'm pretty sure the U.S. people have enough of a stomach to handle that. I'm sure many people would consider that getting off light.

Why confine him to a cell? Why waste the resources of the state?

Nooooo. That which you believe me to be speaking of IS the light version that is carried out in some societies.

In the traditionalist East, one who is banished is unmarked, unrecognized even as they move through a crowd. They are meaningless parts of the background. They are less than animals. Ghosts, if you will, that move about in the daylight doing naught but taking up space. Useless, broken tools that have no meaning, no purpose. They are shunned and ignored. No person employs them. No person respects them. No person helps them when they are in need and they are always in need. And if they strike at another, they are put down and ner a word uttered in protest, no hand raised in their defense; their broken body dragged off to some obscure corner to rot.

They are there, but not there. They are nothing.

Some don't have the collective stomach to carry out such a punishment and some societies just can't do it. In individualist cultures like the US, the affect is much lighter. In collectivist cultures, like in the East, it is a death sentence. Western cultures lock them away so that they will not be seen, so that they do not have to see them. But why waste an educational oppertunity to remind people what is worse than death?

Why let a mass murderer breath the same air I do? Why let him see the light of day? He is scum, pure and simple. I don't want him anywhere near me or anyone else. Your punishment is already experienced by plenty of people. People who have no social skills, or are afraid to meet new people etc. Do they deserve it? No. On the other hand some people even like the sense of isolation, or of being ignored, some people just don't like being social, they seek it out. Why give him a punishment that he could grow to enjoy? That's no punishment, to just let him keep living the way we do, the only difference being he can't interact with others. What if he wants to kill someone else? What's going to stop him before it's too late? What do we do if he kills another? Nothing? There a reason we have prisons, so people can't commit the same crime.

That is my point. It IS a good punishment, but it doesn't work in Western society since it is more or less the norm.

That is why I support the death penalty for people like this guy, since the only alternative that I prefer wouldn't work.

And I already pointed out that in my scenerio, he would be killed with no reprecussions on the killer if he raised his hand against another.

Why the death penalty then? He can't learn anything if he's dead and neither can anyone else but yet want him and others to learn something from this. Why can't prison teach a lesson and be an effective punishment?

He is nothing. He is useless. HE does not have to learn ANYTHING. There is NO HOPE of redemption for him.
In prison, he is just a drain on the society. He needs to be kept in 'humane conditions'. SOO... we give him 3 meals a day, a place to sleep, exercise, reading material, television, etc. No freedom, but I would sooner give these things to a starving child in Africa.
Why do we keep him? What is the point?

So he lives with the knowledge that he did terrible things that nobody should do. Yet he can't do anything about it. He can't make it up to anyone and he will forever be know as a monster. He'll be forced to live with with that information until his dying day and hopefully he himself will come believe this as well. That's what he deserves, just killing him wouldn't do his crimes justice. I want him to feel terrible and miserable for the rest of his life.

And if he doesn't?
What if he reveles in the bloodshed that he has committed?
What then?